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Cylinder gets hard to turn about every 60 rds or so
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 Posted: Tue Jan 26th, 2016 03:28 AM
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I've been shooting a Ruger GP100 Match Champion revolver for steel challenge matches. Initially, it'll turn smooth as butter, but as I'm putting rounds through it, the cylinder gradually gets dirty and harder to turn, roughly around the 60 rd mark. I find that the notched part on the rear of the cylinder and underneath the extractor gets too much carbon on/around it, and adds resistance. A quick cleaning with some Hoppe's gets it running smooth again, but I have to basically clean it somewhat after each stage. I've been using Blue Dot, but that's running out. Next up is some True Blue that I've already worked up loads for. I'm hoping the True Blue will leave less residue and will take care of this, otherwise I'll be looking to try some other powder still. I've been using 38 Specials, with Lee 158gr lrn bullets in it.



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 Posted: Tue Jan 26th, 2016 04:43 AM
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Chances are your Blue Dot load is not up in pressure enough causing a lot of residue. Blue Dot kind of needs a near top end load to burn clean. I have never loaded it in 38 spl brass so I wouldn't know a load. I have not used True Blue so I can't comment on that but but you should have much better results with a faster powder, I really like Bullseye in 38 spl.



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Don't know much about either of those powders, but I can shoot well over 100 rounds of through my revolver and barely see any powder residue at all. I use Bullseye or Titegroup under 158 gr. swc



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I agree with cylinderman. Switch to a faster powder and your problem should be solved.

I have shot as many as 200 rounds in a sitting and never had this happen.

Blue Dot is reserved for the 357Mag when I use it. The SDs are not good in the 44Mag so I don't use it there.



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That sounds like a plan. At the time I started working on loads for it, Blue Dot was all I had found, but since then I've acquired True Blue and Bullseye. With 6.7gr of Blue Dot I was getting 760 fps using boolits cast from the Lee TL .358 158gr lrn, which flattened nicely when they hit the plates. With just 5 gr of True Blue I was getting 787 fps. I went to 3.5 gr with the Bullseye, and it was saying 731 fps, and if I increased it, it was gonna be up in the +P range. I was hoping to get it worked out to where it'd be sufficient for power factor of 120, and just go with that. The club hosts a variety of matches, and not having to constantly readjust the sights sounds like a good idea, although, having the cylinder cycle reliable sounds like a better idea for sure lol. I think I'll make up a whole box of True Blue and see how it works, but I only have 1 lb of that, so it won't last very long. What sort of charge weights have y'all been using with Bullseye?



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I was able to put a whole box of rounds through it today that were loaded with True Blue. Much better results! It was still turning smoothly at the end as at the beginning. That seems to be the ticket, excellent advice!



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Bullseye and W231 were my standard powders for PPC comp. Hundreds and hundreds of round in practice sessions with no problems at all. Good luck!



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I agree with Bullseye or W231. Not sure just what power lever you need for your competition but at or a hair below Plus P levels should work OK Maybe a bit less if the targets aren't too heavy . Nice thing about those two powders. A little goes a long way. :cool:
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I put them to the test today. I didn't have time to make up enough with just True Blue, so I had to take a bunch assembled with Blue Dot along. A couple of times the Blue Dot loaded ones slowed me down. I have Bullseye too so I'll start making up a bunch of those also.



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