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 Posted: Tue Jan 3rd, 2017 05:58 PM
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Based on the reviews, I bought a pound of Longshot to try in my larger/faster pistol calibers. I loaded up some behind a 135 grain Nosler in my 10mm, and behind a 180 grain Xtreme in 40 S&W.

Holy CRAP! what a powder! :thumbs: I won't use it as a "plinking" powder, but for speed and power in a hunting round, or "just for kicks" at the range, it will be tough to beat. It is LOUD, it has a big kick/recoil and it's very powerful without getting to high (unsafe) pressures.

Off the top of my head the Nosler chrono'd at 1550 FPS average and the 40 S&W went over 1100 FPS from my P226.

Now I have some loaded up in 357 SIG for fun next time.

As always, these loads were developed by me, for use in my guns at my range using my chrono, etc, etc etc, and YMMV



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Yep,,, Longshot is capable of some impressive velocities, it is not real suitable to being downloaded, but, it is not as "balls-to-the-wall-or-stay-home" that W296/H110 is.

My only current use for it is shotgun, but, that is my use, the niche it fills for me.



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It's on the faster burn rate side for a mag powder but I have had some good results with it. It will get a slug moving pretty fast downrange.

I like it in .357 ,does ok in my 44 mag with casts. Haven't done much work in the 45 colt, But I like it because it has a large range of applications. I've seen good results in my .357 with it and h110 preforming very close. Under a 158xtp. Supposededly it performs really well in 45 acp too I haven't tried it with the ACP yet it's on the list.

And it is a good shotgun powder also, from all I've read on it, for heavy game loads.

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Longshot is my go to 40S&W powder. Consistent and fairly clean on the top end and yes it's a big boomer.



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Slayer, I use it for trap shooting games like Annie Oakley shoots and back up. You can see the speed differences on clays waaaay out there and shoot with about the same lead that you'd use on 20 yard handicap birds.

As far as your post above and the statement: As always, these loads were developed by me, for use in my guns at my range using my chrono, etc, etc etc, and YMMV...... Please feel free to go here: http://www.handloadersbench.com/forum91/12278.html and cut and copy our disclaimer if you'd like.

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good to hear it works in the handguns too.
I used it in some high performance shot shell loads to launch lead shot at some impressive velocity's.

I picked up another pound recently to work on some 41 mag loads with.
I don't really want screaming H-110 velocity's but I do want some decently flat shooting rounds in the Ruger hunter's 6" barrel.



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runfiverun wrote:
good to hear it works in the handguns too.
I used it in some high performance shot shell loads to launch lead shot at some impressive velocity's.

I picked up another pound recently to work on some 41 mag loads with.
I don't really want screaming H-110 velocity's but I do want some decently flat shooting rounds in the Ruger hunter's 6" barrel.


I have been working on some 41Mag loads in a Ruger Blackhawk. So far I have been quite impressed specially with heavy boolits, been working with a 240gr Lee SWC. To me it's like a less temperamental Blue Dot and can be loaded right up to the point where H110 would take over.



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Rockydog wrote:
<snip> Please feel free to go here: http://www.handloadersbench.com/forum91/12278.html and cut and copy our disclaimer if you'd like.

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Thanks Rockydog, will do in the future!



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Have to go with RD on the Longshot powder- That's my go to for the 16ga 1 oz NP shot with plenty of FPS and RANGE - loads for Pheasants..will put them birds down on there spurs. Pistol loaders are coming around to using it with much respect-also and AMEN to that powder.:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs: love that LONGSHOT



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All I use for my 40S&W
Also works well in 9MM



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I use a lot of Longshot, it's hard to beat for top end velocities with 9mm, +P 38 spcl., .40 and of course 10mm. It doesn't go well in .357 mag. though, but I'd imagine it would shine in .357 sig..

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Now I'm gonna have to try it in 40 S&W--been using it in 28 Ga, never thought about it for the 40. Guessing it will be good in my Beretta 96, probably an ear buster out of my S&W M&P. Time will tell. Guessing it works better with the heavier bullets?



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jm423 wrote:
Guessing it works better with the heavier bullets?
I suspect so, and I have seen that happen before in handgun with slow powders.



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jm423 wrote:
Guessing it works better with the heavier bullets?

Honestly, I've been running it with all bullet weights and have had very good results. The only suggestion I would make is to run it at the upper end of the table, it needs it's pressures.

For example, I use it with Nosler 135 gr. JHP's in .40 cal., no issues at all. I have also run it in 9mm with 90 gr, XTP's again no issues at all. But in both of those applications I ran it at max. charges. But during development I saw some very prominent low pressure signs, erratic velocities, heavy soot, and incomplete cycling, but those issues disappeared once I got above mid table.

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Longshot is my preferred powder for 10mm and 460 Rowland with 230 grain XTPs. It works really well with Rowland .



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I've used it in .480 Ruger a little, not enough to have strong opinion on it but early results seems favorable.
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jm423 wrote:
Now I'm gonna have to try it in 40 S&W--been using it in 28 Ga, never thought about it for the 40. Guessing it will be good in my Beretta 96, probably an ear buster out of my S&W M&P. Time will tell. Guessing it works better with the heavier bullets?
I love it in my Beretta 96. Very accurate, fun kick. I shoot Hornady 155 grain XTP with 7.8 grains. Started loosing a little accuracy past 8 grains.
Also, surprisingly, it works real well for low loads. Been experimenting with MissouriBulletCo 155 grain SWC Hi-TEK coated bullets and am using 5.3 grains and it cycles the slide just fine. Been having to consistently lower the loads due to bore leading and was using HP 38. However, at some point my gun started stove piping so I switched. No issues. For some reason I thought higher pressures would be better for lower loads for cycling a semi auto but apparently that's not the case.



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Typically, a slower burning powder for application, such as Longshot in.40 cal. would need to be ran around mid table-ish+ to reliably cycle the action. But in the case of the Beretta 96, I think it might have something to do with the action and also the slower burn rate of Longshot delivering a longer pressure duration. Where as HP38/231 is a fast burner for application, so reduced charges may not sustain adequate pressure to cycle the action. And even though it may produce enough or maybe the similar peak pressures, it doesn't sustain that pressure long enough to fully cycle the action.

I am not a ballistic expert, more so a ballistic idiot, but this is just my .025 cents worth...:wink:

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slayer61,
How is that Longshot working out for you in the 357 Sig. Am thinking about loading some up after I use up this batch. Will be going with the 124-125 gr bullets. Keep us posted.:thumbs:



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Ruffian wrote:
slayer61,
How is that Longshot working out for you in the 357 Sig. Am thinking about loading some up after I use up this batch. Will be going with the 124-125 gr bullets. Keep us posted.:thumbs:


I have a batch loaded with 115 grain Hornady I'm hoping to see 1500 FPS for next range trip, but my job keeps needing me! :lol:



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