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 Posted: Sun Jan 25th, 2015 01:08 PM
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Here at work, we need to get rid of the deer that are eating everything.
I don't care for venison, nor do I know or want to know how to field dress a deer.

We do have it in our sights to finish deer fencing the property but prior to that we need to get these animals out of here. Or at least deter their numbers from coming back.

So, two pronged here, hone our shooting and hunting (hogs are fun to shoot) skills and get rid of deer without having a 150lb blob of flesh to clean up,,,, what are your thoughts on non lethal rounds?

I see Lightfield makes a series of different velocity and weights that should accomplish this task. Has any one here used them or something similar and what was your success rate.




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 Posted: Sun Jan 25th, 2015 03:30 PM
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Couple of deer chasing dogs come to mind.They can be on duty 24/7 compared to the cost of rubber buckshot and the few times a day that you will see them.



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 Posted: Sun Jan 25th, 2015 03:35 PM
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Perhaps there is a food pantry in the area that could benefit from the venison. There are meat processors in WI that volunteer their labor or you can pay a portion of the labor as a donation to the pantry along with the venison. RD



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There are some deer repellents on the market, some work well, some don't work very well. Most state Ag departments will also have a list of supposedly "deer proof" plants, things they don't eat, unless they are really hungry, and then they will eat everything.

A wrist rocket and 1/2 inch ball bearings comes to mind.



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Wheez
We have a border collie here at the facility.  The ONLY thing in the world she cares about is her tennis ball.  She will NOT run after anything else.  We had major trouble with squirrels chewing and breaking the lines between our decorative string lights. We had to get rid of the over population of squirrels.  I personally hit one, it was up in the tree for about 2 minutes before it decided to drop to the ground.  It dropped right when the dog was running with a ball in its mouth.  The dogged turned its head to see the squirrel drop and kept running to me with the ball.  Funny!

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Good idea on the food pantry, but then again I don't know how nor care to learn how to field dress a big bloody 150lb blob of flesh.  eeuuwww!

Charley
We have all deer resistant vegetation, yet the stupid things nibble at our blue bonnets and other things.  If they cap a bluebonnet it can ruin our spring business. $$  We have sprayed the egg/garlic sprays and they do work, but, people think it stinks around here then.

The sling shot is a good idea but I cant get that close, thus the rubber shot of some kind hitting out of a shotgun.

I love all the answers and feedback, thanks!  :)

Just to save me from field testing and spending money on ammo that may not work, does anyone have a range report on some non-lethan rounds maybe something similar to the Lightfield, unless you just think they are the best for what I need done.

PS I thought of inviting someone over to hunt/shoot them and take the meat but the ladies in the office have poo pooed that.  Cant kill Bambi.



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 Posted: Sun Jan 25th, 2015 07:30 PM
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I would suggest pepperballs. Like paintballs but loaded with capsicum.



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You might get used panty hose from "the office ladies" and fill them with hair clippings from a barber shop. Tie them all around the place and that should repel deer for awhile.




Or, call me, or Charley, or the only sarge to come out after the gals leave and......
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Ok this may get me in a bit of a mess. But I would go with olyeller's idea if the girls wont let them be dealt in a more permanent way. But use dirty socks, the dirtier the better. Long ago I had a young smart A hunter set his tree stand right across the fence from mine. I decided to just let him have the spot. I left my stand like I was using it and got some of my work socks and hung along the fence line out of his sight. You know he never saw a deer one... I moved down the fence about 200yds and set up again. was a good move. But it is a temporary solution. I would guess maybe 2-3 weeks but then just rehang others and it should keep them out.



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Blood is a good deer repellant. Just spray some around the grounds.
Maybe you could get some bow hunters in there.



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Hair clippings, dirty socks, Irish Spring soap, and blood/blood meal all work for wild deer, once they're used to coming in to feed and aren't afraid of people, they have little effect. Lion scat from zoo or pet lions works, but as soon as they figure lion isn't around, they ignore it.



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My thoughts on non lethal?  There is no such thing!  There might be "less than lethal", but ANY round fired out of a firearm, whether it is a blank, rubber bullets, paint ball, etc had the potential to be lethal.
  If I had a deer problem and I wasn't allowed to kill off said offenders, I think my first choice (for a permanent solution) would be electricity......a good, old fashioned electric fence.  Put it at varying heights so that the deer would eventually come into contact with it as some point, and run current through it.......I would set it up so that only certain areas would be electrified, and the randomness of getting zapped would help keep the deer out longer.
  The dog idea is a good one, also.  There are companies out there that use canines to keep chase geese off of properties; I would imagine that there are those that are used to keep deer away as well.



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If you look around, you can find dried puma piss for sale, might do the trick.



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Maybe the girls at work need to just get a reality bite.



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When the deer would go after my veggie garden in the off season, a pump up pellet rifle would do the trick and good for target practice



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16 gauge...right on.

energy/velocity with rubber bullets is tricky. I worked for a rubber bullet manufacturer. they kill or injure most hit, including people.

just shoot, shovel and shut up. 22 mag.



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One fella used chili powder and motor oil to ward off unwanted animals. I do not have personal experience with it. He claims it worked for him. Good luck finding a solution.



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Deer are adaptable.Dogs or grill them.The ladies need to wake up.



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Probably a fence with a couple of dogs inside are the only long term reliable method.



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HOGS ARE GOOD TO EAT TOO!



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58APACHE wrote: One fella used chili powder and motor oil to ward off unwanted animals. I do not have personal experience with it. He claims it worked for him. Good luck finding a solution.
  I think this fellow works in a nursery....I doubt if he would sell many plants/shrubs if they were doused with chili pepper & motor oil!  I don't think it would be too good for the plants, either:confused:
  Come to think of it, I doubt that I would enjoy MY garden if it were doused with chilli pepper and motor oil!:wink:



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