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Any .243 hunters? Need advice
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 Posted: Sun Oct 16th, 2016 11:42 PM
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Until 2014 I hunted with a 7mm Rem Mag. Then I had a triple bypass and was told that shooting a heavy recoiling rifle might be a bad thing. I now have a .243 Winchester and several good hunting loads using either Hornady 95 gn SST or Sierra 100 gn Pro Hunter. Since I've never used anything this light before, my main question is about shot placement on whitetails - will these bullets work better with neck shot rather than the traditional "boiler room" placement? Does either bullet have the potential to kill quickly with a quartering shot? Guess I'll feel better after I drop the first one and see how the rifle preforms, but I'll take all the experienced advice I can get at this point.



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 Posted: Mon Oct 17th, 2016 12:52 AM
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You should have no trouble with PA whitetails, either bullet will work just fine, I like and use the Hornady bullets a lot, the interlock keeps the core were it should be. The 100 gainers would give you the best in terms of penetration.  If you look at the trajectory   of the 7mm RM and .243 WW they are very similar. the beauty of the .243 is that you can place your shoots so precise, and no recoil.I like your choice of powder as well, it shines with slow burners. As far as killing power you will be surprised at how well it will do. Good luck and have confidence in the .243 WW it has and will continue to put venison in the freezer form coast to coast.:thumbs: Oh and lung shots will be just fine.



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+1 on what mtman said.

Whitetail don't stand a chance against the .243, if shot placement is good. My son helped fill our freezer for 6 years, with a .243, till I moved him up to a 30-06 for an Elk hunt. The 95 grn SST's and 100 grn spire points are good medicine on whitetails.

Oh! And he always went with a behind the shoulder shot. Most were within 20 yds of impact and some DRT, anywhere from a 75yd to 150yd shot.



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I have a .243 that I have killed several deer with, using 95 or 100 gr bullets, either Nosler partition or Hornady SST. Never shot one quartering away with the .243, but did one time with my .270. At that angle it glanced off & I almost lost the deer. I made a rule then that I would never make another quartering shot.

I now hand load for my Grandson's .243 using mostly the Hornady SST. He has killed several deer with it. Of course bullet placement is important with any caliber as to whether they drop then & there or you trail them. Regardless, if the shot is in the right place, .243 will do the job, & Oh, so much less recoil.

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histed,
I have never hunted with a 243 for deer in the NE - (NY,CT,PA,NH,VT or Maine). Would imagine going with the heavier bullet would be your choice cause of the brush etc. That's just my opinion / 2 cents . Would be interested to hear how / which way you going and how you make out. Good luck.:thumbs:
Glad the ticker is doing much better for you.. Just went through a blood clot in my leg and bird hunted first time this past week and damn it felt good to walk the fields.:thumbs:

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Recently loaded some 22-250 Rem for my brother. Used 55 gr. Sierra Pro-Hunter and a 40 year old load from my father.

Good news: out of the gate 0.369 MOA, astonishingly accurate even for that rifle from a less than ideal rest.

Bad news: we recovered jackets from GA clay completely separated from cores.

Bought some Hornady IL's to try to determine if it was bullet construction or the drought hardened GA clay responsible for sseparation.

Haven't had a chance to get back to GA to find out.

Have filled freezer for years with 270 Win IL's.

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Killed a bunch of deer with my Rem 243 700 ADL.  With one exception, we always loaded 100 grain Partitions on top of IMR7828.   DECADES later we went to 95 gr Partitions and tried some RL19 and the results were pretty good. 

Close up and out to about 150 these loads always performed.  There were several quartering to shots and a single quarter away.  Most were classic broadsides. 

Never lost a deer or even much of a track job. 

Strictly as an opinion, when you are carrying a lighter caliber weapon you tend to be a bit more careful.  For example, although I am sure the gun would kill at 200 I would probably not take that shot. 

We hunted the Tejon Ranch back when a day hunt tag was $100 and I think Catalina Island was about the same.   I carried the 243 quite a bit back then and it never let me down.       




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My thanks to one and all. mtman -seen enough of your posts and snuffy's that you both make me feel more confident already. I'll likely stick to the 100 grn this year - need a little more work with the 95s and have too little time. I DO love the lower recoil!
Ruffian - good to be back out! I know the feeling.
12semi - I have 7828 from the 7 mag. What primers and charge weight did you like in .243? (I'm never satisfied. I love the journey more than the destination)



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I've shot MANY big mule deer with a 243 from 50 yards to 350 yards. WONDERFUL cartridge for deer and antelope.
That said.
A good bullet such as a Barnes, Nosler, speer. I use a lighter bullet 85 gr speer, in the 243 and use a Barnes 80 gr in my 6mm rem. You can pick up SOOOO much extra speed out of the lighter bullet it makes up for the smaller pill, energy . If you plan to soot 300 + a 100 is a good choice but if your shooting 300 and less PLEASE check out a titch lighter bullet you may be surprised...
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d45/70 wrote:
I've shot MANY big mule deer with a 243 from 50 yards to 350 yards. WONDERFUL cartridge for deer and antelope.
That said.
A good bullet such as a Barnes, Nosler, speer. I use a lighter bullet 85 gr speer, in the 243 and use a Barnes 80 gr in my 6mm rem. You can pick up SOOOO much extra speed out of the lighter bullet it makes up for the smaller pill, energy . If you plan to soot 300 + a 100 is a good choice but if your shooting 300 and less PLEASE check out a titch lighter bullet you may be surprised...
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Interesting - I've always subscribed to the "bigger is better" school, but I'll stop learning when they throw dirt on me. Most of the shot I'll get will be between 50 and 250 - I'm no long-ranger, by any means. Which Barnes do you use?



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I used Nosler book max load. of 45.5 grains, Fed 210M primers, R-P brass.  Here is the RL19 recipe.....

 
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histed wrote:
Interesting - I've always subscribed to the "bigger is better" school, but I'll stop learning when they throw dirt on me. Most of the shot I'll get will be between 50 and 250 - I'm no long-ranger, by any means. Which Barnes do you use?

TTS 80 gr.
out of the 6mm at 3800 fps.
You won't get that fast in a 243 but close.:thumbs:



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'S OK, d45/70 - bet the deer can't tell the speed. ;)
12semi - that's about how mine look with 100 gr Sierra and H-4831, but my COL 2.650. No need to worry about placement if I do my job



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I've harvested quite a number of whitetail with an old 110 Savage in 243. Before I started reloading I used both factory 100 grain PMC soft points and Remington 100 grain Core-lokt with excellent results. Since rolling my own I've used 100 grain Hornady Interlock soft points with the same results. I much prefer a heart/lung shot if available thus I've only taken a couple of neck shots, but either way with good shot placement they go down within 50 yards if not in their tracks. I've always been impressed by the 243 for whitetail and think you will be as well. Best of luck to you this season!

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Have shot many WT with 100gr Hornady IL, my preferred 243WIN bullet. Also used a lot of Sierra 100's, and have taken 5 with 95gr SST.
Easy to shoot well with. When I'm in heavy brush I like to shoulder shoot them so they are DRT every time.
The 100gr is very good hog medicine too.

You'll really like it I believe.



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Frankly, I personally have never shot any deer of any type with a .243. Lots of experience one coyotes, a few bobcats and one mountain lion.
However, I have taken several youths out on their first deer hunts for fairly decent sized Nevada Mule Deer. Fortunately, at that time I had access to a private ranch and the rancher wanted a few deer removed as they were eating up his alfalfa.
I loaned this kids my .243 I owned at the time and these kids took some very nice sized deer. All were one shot kills though some did run a bit before expiring. One was DRT, four ran between 25 and 100 yards but one went about 250 yards before running into a fence and dropping. All shot were as close to broadside as possible, no raking shot at all. The one that ran so far when opened up had it's heart completely gone, just little pits and pieces and there was also some lung damage as well.
The bullet that shot the best for me in that rifle was the 100 gr. Hornady IL. I can't remember the load as somehow all my load notes disappeared in the move from Nevada to Arizona. I gave that .243 rifle away to the son of a friend for his first deer hunt.
These days my light rifles are a .257 Roberts and 7x57 Mauser.
When I first got involved with the Arizona Hunter Ed program, one of my bosses had a triple bypass and most of his deer hunts were with either a .243 or 6MM Remington. He only went for the 30-06 if he drew and elk tag. He was careful to not shoot anything bigger.
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'S OK, d45/70 - bet the deer can't tell the speed. ;)
12semi - that's about how mine look with 100 gr Sierra and H-4831, but my COL 2.650. No need to worry about placement if I do my job


I know, the one I just shot never knew what hit it.
It will be a few days for some pics. and a story, I just got back in from the hunt.
Short story, 449 yards off my pack . Shooting 6mm rem. and a 80 gr TTS Barnes , 3800 fps. Dead 4 point mule deer.
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I was a die-hard, 30-06, man for about 40 years. When the Doc told me I should shoot something lighter I went to the .243. I've never looked back. I've killed many a whitetail with this great round including some 200 lb. + bucks. One well placed shot did the trick everytime. 100 gr. Hornady SP.



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My wife has used a 243 in a left hand Savage 110 for over 20 years. If possible she prefers a high shoulder shot....they don't go far and have always fallen within sight. It works as well as my 270 I used to use and I think it's even more destructive. I load 100 gr. Sierra Game Kings over IMR-4831.



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I have a Ruger M77 MkII in .243 that belonged to my late father in law. He started shooting it for the exact same reason you mentioned. He had a weak ticker and the doc said no more recoil. He was absolutely lethal with factory ammo shooting a 100 gr bullet. Shoulder shot and they were almost always DRT. IF they ran it was no more than 20 yards.

I myself have been hunting with it for the past several seasons and the 95 gr nosler ballistic tip is the bomb!

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