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Wild Boar Myths
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 Posted: Sun Mar 6th, 2011 07:50 PM
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klallen wrote: interesting topic.  i've never hunted wild boar but have talked about it much with the bro as he's hunted them on several occasions.  we will get hunts in when time allows so i'll will throw this past the "experts" of the room.  intentions aren't to hyjack the topic in any way.  just fact finding.

when talking about boar hunts, i've always done so thinking of handguns being the primary weapon.  .375, .44, .454 in the revolvers.  10mm, .45winmag, .50ae in my larger semiauto's.

last hunt the bro went on he took his pig with his .45acp.  i always thought getting onto a place with lots of hogs would be fun taking all the appropriate handguns down and bloody as many as i could.

so what say the "experts"?  if they're easy to kill with rifles, heavy cast bullets from the larger handgun rounds work ok?  ranges allow such opportunity?  in time, i'll find out for myself but from those who've seen and done,  do my plans sound reasonable ?

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I am not an expert but did drive down to Texas from Montana to go on a pig hunt (Russian boars) and it was tremendous fun. The particular ranch I hunted on had cut swaths out of the brush and set up deer feeders that the pigs would come get corn from underneath. We were told and I saw first hand that even a pig hit hard with a deer rifle can still get away into the  brush and get lost. We were told to head shoot them to prevent that. We also only had one day shooting during the daylight hours and the pigs turned nocturnal. I knew what to expect (more or less) as I went down there with some friends who hunt there regularly. So I loaded up some 60gr. nosler partitions for my .22-250 as I have a scope with a lighted reticle I could use during the night. The blind boxes are only about 60 yards from the feeders. The pigs would come rushing in as a bunch, feed for only a couple of minutes and then rush away. They were constantly in motion so the trick was to get a head shot on a moving target. A very fun challenge. We had two pig tags each and I managed to bring home a #200 and a #135 pig. We loaded them in big coolers of ice and brought them back. Great eating!! If I could figure out how to post a picture I would.

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Have done a lot of pig hunting in Hawaii. There the pigs are a hybrid of the Polynesian and European. Those sucker can get to be seriously big and mean. I have shot 4 that weighed in at 600+ lbs. The tusk get so long they can and do curve around and fester and protrude through the lower jaw. When that happens they are seriously mean and pissed.
When I was 14 or 15 I regularly got to help a local Fish and Game warden, Lyman Nichols, dart, measure, weigh, blood sample and tag wild pig. After darting an unusually large boar which took 3 extra nicotine darts to bring him down that boar didn't stay down for more than 10 minutes. While trying to inject him a 4th time the piss off pig came up hard and fast. He started charging and Lyman pulled his 357 revolver and unloaded 6 rounds between the shoulder blades from just 4 or 5 feet. His front legs spread further apart with each shot but he kept on charging until he was pushing himself along on his chin and chest, and my pucker factor almost created a black hole.



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 Posted: Sun Mar 6th, 2011 10:28 PM
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So that's where they get those pigs in the sand b-b-q? :lol:.

I assume the pigs in Hawaii are pests like they are down in the southeast U.S.? Is there any hunting for them done over there? Just curious because I think my lovely bride wants to vacation there next winter.....this may influence my decision!

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The tourist luau (BBQ) pigs are mostly USDA Farm raised. But the locals are definitely hunting and enjoying the wild ones. There is hunting on all the Island but the outer islands like the Big Island are the primo hunting spots. I've mostly hunted on private ranches. License is now required and there are several warning regarding disease now days. It's been awhile since I actually hunted pig there. Hunting in a rain forest and the views and plenty of pigs sure make hunting there FUN. But when is hunting not fun?



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The big problem that most hunters have killing hogs is caused by shooting them behind the shoulder like they do deer. Hogs should be shot no further back than the middle of the shoulder.



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Here is a picture of the #200 I headshot with a 60gr. nosler partition from a .22-250.

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Nice pig there Muley, good shot.
Do you slaughter them for the table?
If so what are the kinds of worms etc you have to look out for in the US?



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Mick, these are very good eating. I was told that the really big ones, and especially the males can be gamey but these mid-size are very tasty. We ate pork regular (as you would expect in the wild they are lean meat) over the course of a year on this #200 and the 135# I also got. The only worm problem you may encounter is the same as with any pork, domestic or wild and that is the trichinella worm that leaves cysts in meat and can cause a person to take up the parasite if the meat is not cooked to a hot enough temperature to kill the cyst. As many people don't know, its the heat getting to a specific temperature that kills parasites, not how long it is cooked for! Drives me crazy to eat perfectly good game meat that someone has turned to cinder quality for fear of "getting something", anyway that should be another thread right?

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Muley,
Definetly "food for thought" on that thread about paracites etc in game meat, If i remember I might just start one.

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I try to hunt them once or twice a year. Shot placement is essential (same as on all game).

223 and 22-250 works great on head shots (anythiing larger will work also). They are considerably tougher to stop or kill than a whitetail. for thick stuff, where head shots will be tough, I like the 8mm Mauser (my double rifle) or the 375 win Marlin lever. For body shots, heavy bullet weight is a good thing.

If you have a tracking dog, great; but without one wounded hogs, even if fatially hit, will run and bury themselfes in the thickest jungle they can find. they burrow into a palmetto or needled brush and lay hidden. As so one said, "don't count on a blood trail".

Over bait or in orchards where the hogs are eating fallen fruit (oranges, apples) head shots are the best to take.

Over the years I've killed them with body shots from 308, 338, 300mag, 8mm, 375, 44 mag 41 mag and 12 guage. I can say that one hog took 3 12 ga (2 3/4) slugs in the boiler room and didn't fall, merely moved 10 yards after each hit. He stood there for 2 minutes after the third slug then swayed and went down. none of the slugs exited.

They have a tough hide, lots of heavy muscle, thick boned, and grissle. But I like the hams smoked. The ribs are meatless and tough.



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I have only shot small hogs with a handgun(45 acp). Otherwise, my 280 has put down many a hog with a single well-placed bullet. I have yet to have a hog walk a way from an encounter w/the 280. I watched a few episodes of hog wild and it's funny how much they try to instill fear of hogs into the general public. I have been among packs of 30 or more and never seen them get aggresive towards me. Maybe I'm just lucky.



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They do attack in the south. I've been chased a number of times by boars. Merely jump up a tree about 2 foot of the ground; they can't climb. I hunted with a guy in Florida that ran as a hog chased him (no big trees to climb), he tripped. When the guy was down, to keep him off his face and important body parts, he kicked the boar in the face. The boar ate offhis Nike shoe tip, took two toes with it.

Once when being chased I jumped the tree, boar slashed at the tree trunk 10 inches below my feet. Cut up the trunk pretty bad, snarled and slashed for a few minutes. As that hog walked away about 40 yards, I climbed down and shouted an expletive at him. He turned, snorted and charged back...I went back up that tree like a monkey. Never shouted at another.

I've also spooked hogs in thick stuff, and watched one run into a 5 inch thick tree and bounce back off that trunk. He snorted and ran back into it again, and again bounced off. On the third try he just missed it but threw a tusk at it as he passed.

Never been chased by a sow with pigglets, but I'd not want to be seen between mom and the kids when they are startled.

Hogs especially boars, have a really bad temper. I sort of think they have a bad tooth ache all the time????



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Anyone living down Texas way want to organize a forum hunter pig hunt? We could meet and greet, go to a ranch, pay some $$ for a great hunt.

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muley guy wrote: Anyone living down Texas way want to organize a forum hunter pig hunt? We could meet and greet, go to a ranch, pay some $$ for a great hunt.

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Guess I could look around. My place is too small for more than two hunters, I'll check with some friends.

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muley guy wrote: Anyone living down Texas way want to organize a forum hunter pig hunt? We could meet and greet, go to a ranch, pay some $$ for a great hunt.

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Perhaps the sponsor of our Big Game Forum might be a place to start??? :thumbs:

http://www.serengetibend.com/

They offer management hunts with unlimited hog shooting.  RD



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Thanks for the suggestion RD, I wrote to them and asked some questions about a hunt for pigs and will let everyone know as soon as I hear back.

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BEAR wrote: "S&W #57 in .41 mag." Gun of choice for anything, anytime.
That would be awesome. Shooting a big boar with a model 57....oh yeah! Bear, I have been using my old model 57 for over 30 years. Love it. Shot deer with it (one just this last season), would gladly try it on pigs.

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I'm up for a pig hunt, but not in an enclosure.



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Is that what this serengetti place is? An enclosure? The only other hunt I have done was on a ranch down there in Texas but they were not surrounded by high wire fence if that is what you mean.

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