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What Six Rifle Cartridges Will Last?
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 Posted: Mon Jan 2nd, 2017 11:08 AM
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Ed, except that the 30-30 was never a BP cartridge, at least to my knowledge.



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 Posted: Mon Jan 2nd, 2017 12:31 PM
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1. 30-06
2. 308 win
3. 223 rem
4. 270 win
5. 30-30
6. 300 win mag

I just hope the 6.5 Crudmoor dies a fiery painful death. It was the answer to the question nobody asked and everyone that shoots it thinks it's the second coming of the Lord.



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Charley wrote: Interesting question. I shoot a lot of "obsolete" cartridges, they come and go. What will always stay, in terms of rifle cartridges? My list, in no particular order.

1.30/06
2..308 Win
3..223 Rem
4..270 Win
5.7mm Rem Mag
6..30/30 Win

YMMV.

While I am hoping a few others stick around for a bit. I have to agree with Charley on this one (for the most part). I have always been a 308 fan but after working with the 7/08 it is quickly becoming a lead cartridge for me. I also REALLY like the 6.5 Creedmoor with its ballistics vs recoil. The only change I would make is probably the 30/30 being replaced by the Win. 243.

List I believe has some of the most potential:
1. 270 Win
2. 6.5 Creedmoor
3. Rem 7mm/08
4. 7mm Rem Mag
5. 22-250
6. 223

The reason I like this list is with the BC's that are coming out now there isn't a lot of reason to keep a lot of the older "Big Block Chevy's" around, some of these newer or redesigned cartridges are just giving a lot of the older cartridges a run for their money.

I know the second list wont replace the first list since there are just so many of those rifles out there and they are proven to get the job done time and time again.

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30/06
.308 win
.243 win
.338 win mag ( most common elk round around here)
.303 British (so many around)
.375 H&H (at least I hope it will)
My standby is . 270 win and I use it for all game around here and find it better than ever these days but don't see it lasting...just a hunch



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223---243Win---25/06---270Win---308---30/06



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Good Lordy, what a cool and awesome topic. We're going to be talking about EVERYTHING that works!
Here is my list.. my,.. thoughts I guess.
1) 30-06. Why? 'cuz it IS.. (not my fave) but sure does work!
2) .308 Why? 'cuz it IS.. (not my fave) again, this gem sure does work!
3) .223 Why? IMHO the M-16 platform drove , and will continue to drive the platform and the round to be around for a while. (p.s., I was in the 82nd ABN DIV, so
I am familiar with this round and this platform).
4) .270 Why? sure did get a lot of good write ups.
5) .243 this round will be here for a while.


New kids on the block??
#1 6.5 Creedmoor I'll bet the farm on this one.. Is it the best? Nope. But it's marketed correctly, can get in a premium bolt action tack driver as well as an AR rifle. Does almost everything that my top 5 can do.


My personal "most over looked" round.
#1 The 284 Winchester. Poor O'l gal. We missed the boat on that one.



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One good thing is several cartridges use much the same bullets. 6.5 x 55, 6.5 Creedmor, 6.5 Grendel, .260 Remington, 6.5 x 47 all can share bullets. Not all of the weights, but many of them.

That will keep them all afloat longer than one would think.
6mm of any flavor uses .243 bullets.

Look at how long .303 British has hung on, and .30-06. The Mosin round is found everywhere, same with the AK round.

It's hard to guess, really, and hit it exactly.



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1. 30/06
2. 243 Win
3. 22/250
4. 270 Win
5. 7mm Rem Mag
6. 30/30 Win

Personally I like the 280 Remington, I have a model 70 Winchester featherweight and a Ruger Hawkeye chambered in this caliber. I also have a Winchester model 94 AE lever gun in .307 Winchester that has taken quite a few deer all one shot kills using 170 gr Partitions.. William

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My first three choices were driven my Military use and available brass:
30-06
.223
.308
The nest three are what I feel with outlast the others
.270
30-30
.375 H&H
The last because years from now the available of other large calibers will die off because there will be no game available to shoot and this one caliber will come to the fore!
There will be many others but the availability of both ammo and game will make hunters second to collectors and target shooters, last two driven by reloaders in a field that will be much more highly regulated than today!
Just saying!!



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Well firstly it's highly unlikely that I'll be around in 100 years so there's a bit of a care factor involved. However, barring all sorts of unforseen circumstances, and with just a touch of bias;
222Rem (better than a 223)plus I have one
243W does it all.
270W as above
7x57M we are currently seeing a huge revival of this round
308W because.
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Well, just to throw my 2 cents in :razz:

1. 30-06
2. 30-30
3. .308
4. .243
5. .300 WinMag
6. .270

No particular order, just my best guess as to the current popularity and longevity that I've seen in my lifetime. :wink:



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Might be a regional issue,around here the .270 win,.308 win and the 30/06.Lot's of .338 wins, a few 45/70's and everyone has at least one .303 British.



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Yes I can agree on the ones mentioned too.
30-06
308 Win
30-30 Win
270 Win
223 Rem
But the venerable 45-70 is still going strong though. So it'll still be around.

The 300 Magnum, 7mm Magnums seem to stay in there too. The .338 Lapua seems to be doing well too. Plus the .35 Whelen (necked up 30-06) is still hanging in there as well.



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Well, it does appear that some of the old favorites will be around for a long time, if our opinions mean anything. IMO, we have so many options when picking cartridges, simply because most of us want something different that we can talk about. For any tasking, we have any number of cartridges from which to choose, all of which will get the job done in fine style. Therefore, in the end, we pick the cartridge that has been touted by others and usually, it will work.
Then, there is the desire to be different. Some time back, I bought an E. Brown rifle in 6mm Bench Rest Magnum, which as far as I know, is only made in that caliber by E. Brown. The little single shot rifle is a hoot to take to the range, not only because it is accurate, but because many shooters come over wanting to know, "What the heck is that?" Viva la difference!!
What is your favorite rifle firing a rare cartridge?



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22 Hornet, 218 Bee, 221 Fireball cause fields are getting smaller and development / noise levels.
222 super round, The PPC's took a lot of that action will still out-last the Rem Bench rest rounds along with the WSSM.
22-250, 220 swift , 225 Win still a class act
243, 244 both plain and in AI are super 6MM's, the 6MM-06 are great for long range shooting and similar wildcats.
25-06, 257 plain and AI wildcat will hold on
6.5's up and coming fast cause of all the new bullets 6.5X47 Lapua, 6.5 Creedmoor 264 Win just a few.
7MM are all great 280 Rem, 7 Rem Mag great bullet's
300 WM, 300 Wby mag, 300 H&H ,300 Savage 06&08 My 30-378 Wby maybe. and the 338 both Win and Lapua mags. 35 Whelen & 35 Rem 38-55, 370 Win and such depending on where one is living and hunting. Cowboy action is bringing back a lot of the old black powder rounds. What about the 45 Colt and ACP.
Always great to up-set the apple cart, food for taught !!! Like to see them all last. Just have too many favorite and love the old WCF's.

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I'm with Charley on this.

.308 win.
30-06
.270 win.
.7mm Rem mag.
.223

To be honest though, 6 doesn't really cover everything that I think will still be around down the road. I don;t see the .243 win, 22-250, 300 Win. mag. leaving us any time soon.

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Paul Tummers wrote:
Too bad, a wonderful round like the .222Rem. is doomed to disappear...

Not as long as you and I draw breath Paul :thumbs:



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This is a fun thread has been going for awhile and no one is going to be too wrong on this one. I offer the following:
22 Long Rifle
.270 Win
30-06
9.3x62 Mauser (been around since 1905 and still kicking)
45-70 Gov't (Ancient caliber and still around)



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Hello Biggs
and welcome to this group of Bandits:cowboy:



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runfiverun wrote:
the 303 is called the 303 because of the bullet diameter.
Savage knew speed sold and if he couldn't outrun the 30-30 he was not gonna sell his rifles.
using the 311 bullet gave him that slight velocity edge [more pressure] and was just enough different for the round to be different in some peoples mind.
they are now, more than likely, made with 308 bullets but originally they used the larger diameter to bump pressures just enough to out pace the 30-30.
they also went with the odd 190gr weight to show it was a 'different' round.


I disagree. I've owned several .303 Savage rifle including some with relatively low serial numbers. I shoot a lot of cast bullets and every one has slugged out at .308". If they once use a .311" bore, I've never seen one.
AFAIK, only Winchester loaded the 190 gr. bullet which BTW is a pretty good one. I wish Winchester had loaded it in the 30-30 and offered is as a component. :pissed:
I still have a box of Remington .303 Sav. ammo in my collection and they're loaded with 180 gr. bullets.
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