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 Posted: Mon Jan 23rd, 2017 07:30 PM
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rnew2000 wrote:
Thanks for the info. I do reload for 223 and use some range brass. Think I'll stick with new brass and my own reloads. On average how many reloads can you get out of brass.

As someone said, "It depends." My full bore balls to the wall ammo may have brass life of five times. On the other hand, I have one box of .375 H&H brass that has been loaded 20 times and is still more than usable. It's a load I use to practice speed loading a single shot rifle. Brass gets trimmed when necessary, neck sized for 4 load than full length sized and annealed.
Primer pockets are still reasonably tight. The load uses H4895 and pushes a 270 gr. cast bullet. Never have checked the velocity but it's accurate. Recoil is about like a 30-06 with stiff 180 gr. load.
What it all boils down to is load'em hot and brass life is short. Load'em light and 10+ loads are more than possible.
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Took all your advice. Shot my 40 rounds of new ammo and full sized them. I used a lyman ez trim and their a couple thousandth long. 2.007, and two somehow shorter like 1.996, and 2.000. Is it safe to use these? What about the ones at 2.007.



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After sizing them and deburring there about .0015 short! Can they still be used? Have no idea what the hell happened. The size is 1.989- 1.990.:confused::confused::confused::confused:



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they will be perfectly fine to use.
I intentionally trimmed some that short.
and shot them 20 times before I had to trim again.

Looks like the Lee type trimmer without the threaded end.. could be some error in length for set up.
One reviewer at Midway stated it does trim his .223 cases way too short.

If you do not like that set up try the Lee.. it puts them on the money every time.

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Thanks. I also noticed the Hornady cases looked like small primers. Is this possible? Or is the primer ring that big. I have a Dillon swage I use for my 223 that I can use, but it seemed really small for a large rifle primer. :confused:



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My 2 cents : If it hits the ground it stays there unless I know the source of the brass. When my brass hits the dirt its over with- my last reloading.



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Thanks.



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Take a .223 primer and place it into the 308 primer hole with your fingers.
It is falls in and then falls out the primer pocket on the 308 is not small rifle primer size.

308 cases can come in small and large rifle primer.
You need a measuring took if you do not have one yet.. vernier calipers



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Good .. trying to stay warm. I have not had a chance  to go fishing with those hooks yet.. fact I have not been fishing for a long time.

But this spring I will be trying them all out. Drift fishing for catfish. and bank fishing.

Wife's friend went fishing off the Florida coast (I think) the other day.. they talked for almost  an hour about fishing.
Her friend caught barracuda and mackerel. The husband and 2 others fought a Tuna for some time and got it in.

She said the Barracuda when it gets large is poison .

is that true?

man I need to go fishing. The racetrack is open today and i am 1/2 thinking of taking my 57 4 door and make a few 1/4 mile passes.
last time it ran 14.40's

How are things up your way?

 



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yah Jeff- the big CUDA's are poison - not sure where the breaking point is on them size wise..Had an old Captain from down Key West way and he loved to eat the smaller ones. Again not know where the poison point starts on them .



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Started reloading my once fired brass using Benchmark and Hornady 150gr FMJBT. I noticed these have the cannalure . Should I use the cannalure? If I do, I'm well below the 2.800 that is the minimum OAL according to the Lee Second addition. Alo should I crimp. There are for a Ruger American bolt gun.



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I would not crimp them and you do not need the cannalure in any specific spot.

In other words you can pretend you do not see that groove with the hash marks.

I have some bullets with the cannalure and in some guns the bullet cannalure is seated below the case mouth other guns it may be .030" above it.. does not really matter.

What does matter is what your gun will want for bullet depth.



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Thanks. Guess I'll go with the 2.800 for now, shoot these and try the find the coal for my rifle. Once you find the initial coal how do determine bullet jump. You want some right? Or do you want to leave it. That's what is confusing to me when I watch it on the Internet. Some leave it, others keep seating the bullet thousands deeper.



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This is how I do it.
I make a dummy round for the rifle..(dummy round is a bullet in a case with NO powder and a shot primer.

I seat the bullet long,, very long.
I take a Black sharpie and I color the bullet (bullet is the projectile)

I chamber the round and look to see if the rifling made marks in my pretty painted bullet.

If it did I color the bullet again and  seat the bullet deeper and re test.
I do this until there is not any more marks from the rifling on the bullet.

I will double check my findings by seating it .003" longer.

It should then have very small marks.

Now I know where the lands are for that bullet.. you change to another bullet or a different batch number of the same bullet and that distance can  or will change.

Any way I try to load .005" off the lands for starters.. then if that does not show promise I go .010" off the lands..

Some bullets like to jump .050" or really do not care where they are at.

And then there are some bullets that no matter what you do the gun just does not like them.



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Thank you very much. I'll try that tomorrow.



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Ruffian wrote:
yah Jeff- the big CUDA's are poison - not sure where the breaking point is on them size wise..Had an old Captain from down Key West way and he loved to eat the smaller ones. Again not know where the poison point starts on them .

Having never heard a whiff of this, I had to go looking this up.

It's not JUST barracuda, it's any of the big tropical reef-dwelling predator fish, Cuda, Grouper, Snapper, Amberjack, and some others.

It's ciguatera toxicity.

The following is from consumer.healthday.com
People who eat large, tropical predatory reef fish such as barracuda and grouper may be at risk for a form of food poisoning called ciguatera fish poisoning, U.S. health officials reported Thursday.

Illness occurs when people eat fish that contain toxins produced by a marine algae called Gambierdiscus toxicus, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


It isn't really a "fish size" issue,, it's more a "fish locale issue.
Big fish in an area high in these diniflagelates DO get toxic because small fish eat the dinos, bigger fish eat the smaller, and so on, it concentrates in bigger and bigger fish.
Big fish in areas low in these dinoflagelates are NOT toxic, because the levels have not concentrated enough.

This makes it a rarity outside tropical and subtropical waters, thus the tropical pacific and the Caribbean is where you find Ciguatera, not farther north (like N. Carolina) or farther south (central part of S. America).

It's fairly common around Australia.



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What do mean any "promise ". Meaning load a few, see how accurate.



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