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Strangest Wildcat you know anyone having
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 Posted: Fri Mar 5th, 2010 09:40 PM
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I built a 20BR, but mine has a 35 degree shoulder. Not too unusual, but it is quicker than a little runny babbit.



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deerdog wrote: I saw a young fellow at my local range shooting a strange round (strange to me anywho). It is the 8mm case necked to 30 cal and fireformed with a 35degree shoulder. He said it would shoot itty bitty groups (don't doubt) and outrun an 06 (umm, doubt). Anyone heard of such a wildcat? DD
Sorry I'm a little late on this. I missed it before. Except for the shoulder angle this would be a .308 Winchester. Or were you having a little fun with us? :sofa:  RD



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6mm-.50 bmg



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22 Cheetah and a 22-243 Middlestead



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How about a 375-06, 458-06, 224-300 win mag with a rebated rim of a 30-06. Actual shooting weapons, Great hog killers.

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I'm just starting work on a custom caliber. I was interested in the SACM M1935A pistol, which shoots 7.65 French Long. Unfortunately the ammo is scarce. So I got to thinking that if I took an FN 5.7x28 and case trimmed it to .800 long (which would remove the shoulder) you are left with an inside diameter of .270. I found some 85gr .270 bullets that should seat nicely with a taper crimp. The pistol I chose to be the platform is a CZ52 (very strong, relatively cheap, the magazine retains the round securely, and with the bullet seated the round is the same length as the 7.62x25). So, a custom barrel, lighter recoil spring (have to experiment with that) and a set of custom dies.



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I had a dream last night about a pistol cartridge I had created. It was an 8mm Lebel rifle case trimmed to 1 inch length then necked down to 17 caliber.

I may try to make 1 of these just to see what it actually looks like.



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I picked up an empty case at my local range. I thought it was a 221 Rem at first glance. It is a LC headstamp, shortened to 1", still at 22 cal. looks like a mini Fireball. Is anyone aware of what this might be called?



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deerdog, Is the 1" a mic measurement or an estimate? A pic might be helpful. You never know what people can come up with. Run a fireball reamer in a barrel 1", Shorten a .221 sizing die to yield a 1" case, chop off and anneal some .223 brass, use a lathe to build a forming die, neck turn the result, shorten the seating die likewise. Bingo! you've got a .221 deerdog! You can even get results like this with a little practice. RD

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Thanks Rocky. The actual measurement is 0.997 with calipers. It appears exactly as a scaled down 221. Cute little round. Maybe designed for pistola powder? I will ask around. Curiosity of what it is chambered in.
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Deerdog, Are you sure it's .22 caliber? There is a .17 Shrew that is a .223 based case shortened to exactly 1 Inch. Here's part of a thread from Saubier.com that discusses it. Rockydog

I have a Shrew and will try to provide some information.

This round is based on a 223 Rem case shortened. Mine is 1" long with a .25" neck but you should be aware that, like many wildcats, case dimensions do vary with individual reamer design.

I have only begun to work with the cartridge but I use 20 grain bullets and WC-680 (a surplus powder similar to 1680), Lil Gun and VV N-120 powders with a variety of cases and Rem 7 1/2 primers. My limited testing has gotten me velocities up to 3700 fps with no pressure signs using reformed 221 Fireball brass. Accuracy has been very good considering the stage of load development with 3-shot groups ranging from 1.3" to .175" at 100 yards with .5" groups commonplace while using a Burris 12X scope.

My Shrew is chambered in a Shilen stainless 11" twist barrel on a Rem 700 action with a single shot adapter. This cartridge is, in my opinion, a little small for this action - it sort of gets lost getting it into the chamber. I am considering chambering this in a CZ or Cooper M38. I am also looking at an XP-100 as it slides reliably into the chamber in this action. I am not sure why it chambers so much better in this action than in the M 700.

My Shrew was chambered by a fellow board member in a package deal with reloading dies. I believe Marty of Twisted Barrel chambered a M 700 for BHB so he is familiar with the round.

I have not been successful in forming the Shrew cases using Butch Lambert's nice universal forming die set. My experience indicates that you will need a Shrew forming die but others may not find it necessary.

I view the Shrew as a 17 AH built on the 223 Rem case. It is a fun cartridge and I still have a lot of learning ahead of me on this one.

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The strangest wildcat cartridge that I ever saw consisted of a .264 Winchester Magnum necked down to .243 caliber with the belt turned off. It made for a fat rimmed cartridge with a skinny neck. The round was chambered in a rebarreled WW2 vintage K98 Mauser. A barrel burner for sure. :thumbs:



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Thanks for the info Rocky. The case is a 22 cal version of what you describe. Same dimensions as a 221 fireball, just shorter, steeper shoulder, I think 30 degrees. A fellow shooter told me a local guy shoots a Cooper with a short little case.(?)



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Yesterday while cleaning up my loading benchs(when I start missing tools I usually discover them in the clutter) I picked up a 300 Sav. case and wondered if anyone has ever made a 6.5/300 Sav. wildcat?  I spent some time searching cartridge books and the internet.  There are several similar i.e. volume and physical size none that I could find specifically formed on the 300 Sav.  I did run two cases into a 7mm neck sizer and then a pass into a 6.5mm neck sizer.  I am certain someone has done this before.



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Sportclay, Could be an interesting little cartridge. It would fall right between the 6.5 TCU and the .260 Remington in performance. RD



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I just ran the case specs through LFAD and created theoretical loads.  It is basically a 6.5x47 Lapua.  Very close in all aspects to the 6.5 Lapua. Only slightly smaller in case capacity(about 2.0-2.5 grain) than the 260 Rem.  A slightly shorter case and a much shorter neck.:sad: The Rem has a 20 degree shoulder and this would be a 35 degree. Theoretical velocities with a 140 gr bullet 2675 +fps. at around 44K to 45k CUP.  26" bbl on the theoretical rifle.  I'm going to check with Clymer and PTG and a few other reamer makers to see if they have ground a similar reamer.  It would probably be simpler to just buy a new 260 Rem....  Wouldn't be as much fun though.

I do have a Rem 700 action sitting in the shop, Hmmm......

 



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I recently talked to a guy at the range shooting a 6X47. I assumed it was a 6X47 on a 222 Magnum case, a fairly common wildcat. Then I saw the size of his cases! It was a 6.5X47 Lapua necked down to 6mm. A web search shows that this round is becoming very popular too. I think you'd be pleased with the 6.5-300. Sometimes it's just nice to have something different. RD



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Rockydog,

Here is a pic of the 6.5-300 Sav. on the left.  The center is 6.5 BRM and the round on the right is one I made in 2003. 35 based on the 9.3x74R . Have taken Elk, Moose Bear,Caribou, whitetails and a couple of coyotes with it.  I have chambered  a T/C Encore and 2 Ruger #1's.   I'm going to do some more research into the 6.5 - 300 possibilities.

 

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That 6.5 BR case looks suspiciously like my 7-30 Waters case. :sofa: RD



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Most of the Brown BRM rounds resemble the rest of the 30-30 based wildcats.  Donaldson's and bulberry's etc.  I use a 7-30 waters size die to make the 6.5 BRM cases.

 



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