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Strangest Wildcat you know anyone having
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 Posted: Wed Aug 18th, 2010 03:10 AM
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In the erly 80s, Bob Hutton at G&A made the
.22 EARGESPITTEN LOUDENBOOMER taking a 378 weatherby and necking it down to 22 cal with a 40 degree shoulder.

Shooting 110 grs it got over 4700 FPS. But the bullet going any fster never reached the target at 100 yards. Scotty must have bemed them up?????:lol:



 Posted: Sun Aug 29th, 2010 11:50 PM
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I just bought a set of dies in .25 Krag AI 40 degree to put in my Martini action. I have read several places that this cartridge is within one grain volumn of the 257 Roberts AI - and my Serria manual has data for that. I get a slightly larger case and a rim for the single shot. Sounds like a good thing to me.



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Rapier wrote: I have several cats around the house, but the most unusual is the 30 Harm. It is a 30 Caliber rimmed cartridge designed for the use of .308 rifle bullets in a revolver. The base cartridge was a 25-20 necked up to an almost straight case then fireformed. The sizing die was made from a 25-20 die with the shoulder removed using a carbide ball end mill. The case capacity is higher than a 30 carbine and the taper deminsions / ratio match the 30 carbine. I was able to get 1700 fps with a 165gr bullet out of a highly modified DW Super Mag frame with a 1-10 twist Douglas 10 inch barrel used as the test bed.

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Why didn't you just use the 32-20 case??



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My buddy took a fn m70 action, added a McMillan stock and shipped all of this off to pacnor for a 28 inch barrel with polygonal rifling and foratic nytride finish. (that is a mouth full) The chambering is to be 6.5/300WSM. May not be ALL THAT odd, but does qualify for the most exotic combo of people I run with.:confused: I'll let u guys now how it shoots when pacnor sends it back.

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Rockydog wrote: Deerdog, Are you sure it's .22 caliber? There is a .17 Shrew that is a .223 based case shortened to exactly 1 Inch. Here's part of a thread from Saubier.com that discusses it. Rockydog

I have a Shrew and will try to provide some information.

This round is based on a 223 Rem case shortened. Mine is 1" long with a .25" neck but you should be aware that, like many wildcats, case dimensions do vary with individual reamer design.

I have only begun to work with the cartridge but I use 20 grain bullets and WC-680 (a surplus powder similar to 1680), Lil Gun and VV N-120 powders with a variety of cases and Rem 7 1/2 primers. My limited testing has gotten me velocities up to 3700 fps with no pressure signs using reformed 221 Fireball brass. Accuracy has been very good considering the stage of load development with 3-shot groups ranging from 1.3" to .175" at 100 yards with .5" groups commonplace while using a Burris 12X scope.

My Shrew is chambered in a Shilen stainless 11" twist barrel on a Rem 700 action with a single shot adapter. This cartridge is, in my opinion, a little small for this action - it sort of gets lost getting it into the chamber. I am considering chambering this in a CZ or Cooper M38. I am also looking at an XP-100 as it slides reliably into the chamber in this action. I am not sure why it chambers so much better in this action than in the M 700.

My Shrew was chambered by a fellow board member in a package deal with reloading dies. I believe Marty of Twisted Barrel chambered a M 700 for BHB so he is familiar with the round.

I have not been successful in forming the Shrew cases using Butch Lambert's nice universal forming die set. My experience indicates that you will need a Shrew forming die but others may not find it necessary.

I view the Shrew as a 17 AH built on the 223 Rem case. It is a fun cartridge and I still have a lot of learning ahead of me on this one.
Rockydog, I finally tracked down the owner of the cute little round above. He made it himself by short reaming a 22 TCU to 0.995. He did this as a machine shop college project and being an avid squirrel hunter. His load consists of a 40 grain bullet seated over 2400 for about 2600fps and a cast load with Unique for 1400 FPS. His gun is built on a Rem short action with 20" barrel of unknown make that he picked up at a gun show. He reported very good accuracy with the cast loads. This round does not feed well from the magazine.



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deerdog, Interesting post about the little .22 round. Did you ever get a photo? I really like homemade stuff. People's ingenuity when presented with challenges is amazing. By the way I also commented on the post below but you never answered me. Were you having a little fun with us?

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deerdog wrote: I saw a young fellow at my local range shooting a strange round (strange to me anywho). It is the 8mm case necked to 30 cal and fireformed with a 35degree shoulder. He said it would shoot itty bitty groups (don't doubt) and outrun an 06 (umm, doubt). Anyone heard of such a wildcat? DD
Sorry I'm a little late on this. I missed it before. Except for the shoulder angle this would be a .308 Winchester. Or were you having a little fun with us? :sofa:  RD



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Rockydog,

Sorry I missed a post. No, it was really an improved 30-8mm. I had the pleasure of shooting it. The owner has since traded it off and I missed the deal. It would shoot one hole groups with the 150 BT boolits. RCBS has dies for this animal if you feel the need:wink: . I will borrow a loaded round of the little 22 and post a pic.

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I have a JK Cloward rifle It's call a 338 super. Model 70 Winchester with a Douglass #5 Bull barrel bored for 340. weatherby. When the 340 Weatherby round is fired through barrel it pushes the shoulder out to a Winchester looking shoulder. Very very expensive way of developing a round but what I've done is very accurate and great velocity. I have wildcat rifle that makes a wildcat casing.

Oh and it kicks very hard.



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One of my favorite old wildcats is the 32-40 necked down to .308, and then blown out so it has more of a shoulder, and a bit more powder capacity.  It probably has a name, but that was even before MY time!



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I made a 8mmx41r, the .357max necked down to 8mm, the purpose was to be able to use old 8mm mauser barrels to make a sort of rook rifle mounting the barrel on a cheap break action shotgun action.
I have made one rifle, have been too tied up with my sick wife to do much development but I may get to it eventually.
I made a resizing die for it and reamed a bator out to 8mm for a light load.
Have yet to group it, though I made a mount for a red dot sight on it.



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Last month we were digging around in a storage attic at the gun club. We found an old bullet board that someone built many years ago. There were the standard old rounds, some more modern rounds, and among the wildcats was a .22-300 Weatherby Mag. I'm sure you can get a chamber reamer and dies made, and I'd never seen one in action. Lottsa powder under a little bullet!



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I shot an 1885 Win. HighWall in .224 Lightning Krag for a couple years.  Put together by Niedner.   Am also loading for .22 Niedner Magnum at the moment.  I love the old single shot varmint rifles.



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My brother-in-law sort of pioneered a short magnum over 20 years ago. He liked the .22 BR that was just starting to make headlines so he had a .460 Weatherby magnum cut down to fit a .308 short action and necked it down to accept a 7mm bullet. He still has the data, says the rifle is a 1" hole shooter at 100 yrds. and chronographed 2900 fps using a 160 gr. bullet. He told me he thought an 8mm would also work well but liked the 7mm for a greater bullet selection. I imagine an 8mm version would look a lot like the .325 WSM of today.

I am going to spend some fishing time late July with him and see if I can get my shoulder behind that rifle to see what it does. Can't wait.

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that is interesting, muley guy. if he did his load development 20 years ago for the round, i'd imagine there'd be powders out there today that would probably improve his performance by a good margin. considering the commercial short mags today are tip-toeing around that 3000 fps range with a 160. he's working with a much larger case then those. would imagine he'd be more along the lines of lazzeroni's .284 tomahawk which claims 3100 fps or better with 160's. do tell more about the rifle when you get behind it this summer.

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Thanks k, I will. It is funny you mentioned that it should perform like a lazzeroni as that is exactly what I told my brother in law! He kind of retired from shooting at that time and he is now a passionate fishing guy so I am crossing my fingers that he will let me bring that baby home to Montana so I can play with it. Unfortunately $$ doesn't ring his bell as he has plenty so I am going to try bribing him with.....chocolate? :lol:. Maybe the family love will do it. Have a good day.

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Gday Fellas,
I just bought myself a 303-25, thinking of improving it. The improved version is called a 303-25 Epps.
Does anyone know where I can get a Lee case length guage for it?



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I also have a 222Rimmed Ackley Improved on a Martini Cadet action, 22" heavy barrel and benchrest stock. Shoots very nice.



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strangest wildcat... ahhh a 7MM Weatherby chambered in a 30 cal barrel ... it didn't shoot well at all... ha ha ha... wouldn't stay on a large box at 25 yds... had it reamed out to 300 Win Mag...



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Muley Guy.
too bad your BIL didn't patent or publish his early Short Magnum. then he would have been the millionaire instead of that guy Jameison!!!

Did your BIL ever talk to the attoreys representing Winchester in the Jameison patent suit? Probably could have invalidated his patent.



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Bear,

I don't think he did anything like trying to patent his cartridge but I will ask him. At the time he was working with a pseudo-gunsmith who I think saw this as a potential cash cow and there was a disagreement that led to them parting ways but not in a friendly way. At the time my BIL was working a lot of hours building his CPA practice and didn't have a lot of time nor energy to do much else.

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