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Startng Tomatoes and Peppers This Weekend
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 Posted: Fri Mar 11th, 2016 04:43 PM
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March 10th is - according to my dad - the best date to plant tomatoes and peppers in our area, so that they are ready to get into the ground on time. I'm missing it by a day or two, but I think things will be alright.

Here is what I will be planting this year:


Peppers:

1. "Peperone Picante a Cuore" It also seems to go by "San Savatore" and appears to be of the type known as "Calabrese" peppers

2. Spanish Cherry Peppers

3. Hungarian “Paprika” peppers

4. Pequin or Tepin peppers from Texas (not sure which?)


Tomatoes:

1. Celebrity (My did insists that these are the best canning/juicing tomatoes he has tried).

2. Brandywine Pink (from Burpee)

3. San Marzano 2 (from Seeds from Italy)

4. Southern Nights (from TomatoFest)

5. Black Krim (from TomatoFest)

6. Purple Russian (from TomatoFest)

7. Mr. Hawkins (from TomatoFest)

8. Black Plum (from TomatoFest)

9. Black Cherry (from TomatoFest)

10. "Large Red Cherry" (from American Seed)

11. Super Sweet 100 Cherry (from Burpee)

12. I’ll also find one other canning or sauce-type tomato to start today or tomorrow, for a total of 12 types of tomatoes (2 plants each)



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 Posted: Fri Mar 11th, 2016 06:22 PM
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You gonna stick them in the Ground, Tsunka?  Hmm.  It is March.  March in Montana is Mild?  Mean? Middlin'?

I hope you mean you indoors heat lamp hothouse.   

You have kids and only two plants each?

When I was young, as in <12, I used to closely observe the local farm crops and assuage my hunger by the deft separation of tomato from vine followed by retreat into forest.  Yes, I think Mr. Farmer knew the skinny kid with no shoes was hungry and let me have my way with one un-harvested corner of his fields. 

Salt in belly button bite on Tomato, dip in Belly Button, heaven.  Down to creek, quick splash,  Life was great.  

When you figure I can come over for lunch? 



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Come on over any time ~ I've got some great pickles and canned tomatoes from last year! For fresh, though - might take a couple of months, or three.... It's definitely too early to put them in the ground up here in Montana, so I'll be starting them in one of these:



We have a pretty short growing season up here (generally considered to be 15 May to 15 September, but usually runs a little longer), so these greenhouse things give a good head start. Tomatoes and peppers seem to need to start earlier than everything else, so I'll get them going. In 3 weeks, I'll start cucumbers, pumpkins, melons etc., and then in mid-may I'll plant all of this in the ground, along with other stuff like corn, beans, radishes, lettuce, carrots, onions...maybe some other root vegetables.

Tomatoes, peppers and cucumbers are my main goals this year, along with a few squashes, pumpkins, and watermelon, but I'll try a few different things.

Last edited on Fri Mar 11th, 2016 06:46 PM by TasunkaWitko



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lolz i'm currently trying to break the dry bricks that pass for clods in me garden spot ( to say that it's dry here is a understatement , yes that means i have to water the dirt and hope it softens up somewhat )
i like the lil greenhouses but fair warning , the peat pods work better than the palm pods , also of fair warning is they sell one that looks like the paper transplanting cups - those get wet clean thru and fall apart with any kind of load in them , and ditto for the paper type transplanting cups - get the peat ones !
i've started my second batch of pods, got the first ones into peat cups the other day
also of note is eggshells make a great starter pot - as long as you figure on getting them into the ground within a couple of weeks of sprouting and dont mind the effort of keeping them wet
only growing 4 kinds of 'maters this year and way way less of the beefsteak varieties , mostly rutgers,roma's and rio's
not sure how many kinds of peppers i'll be growing but some jalapenos,serranos,habaneros and cherry hots have already been transplanted to lil 3" pots , have a whole bunch of new mexico's started and several kind of jalapenos and some anchos waiting on to sprout
also have one indoor pepper plant that was a runt come freeze time so i took pity on it and transplanted it inside , picked the first two fruits off of it last week :wink:

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I started the peppers and tomatoes today...2 days late! I think we'll be okay, though.

I suck at getting peppers to start, grow or survive, so I planted 3 pods of each pepper, 3 seeds per pod. The seeds for all are a bit old (2011, I think), but we'll see how it goes. The Hungarian ones are from 2012, and have been vacuum-sealed since that time, so I am hopeful.

Here are the peppers:

3 pods "Peperone Piccante a Cuore" (from Emanuele Larosa Semente)
3 pods Spanish Cherry Peppers (from Burpee)
3 pods Hungarian “Paprika” peppers (from a friend who generously shared them with me)
3 pods Pequin peppers from Texas (also shared by a friend)

As for the tomatoes, my dad ran out of Celebrity seeds, but had just gotten a pack of a "new" variety called "Celebration," which is supposed to be an improved Celebrity. Also, I decided to skip the cherry tomatoes from American Seeds, for two reasons: a) because I was doubled-up on cherries anyway (triple, if you count the black cherries); and b) because I remembered that between the American Seeds cherries and the Burpee "Sweet 100" cherries, one was radically better than the other, and I am 90% sure that the better ones were the Sweet 100s.

Anyway, skipping the American Seeds variety allowed me to try a couple of others that my dad had, the Granny Cantrell German and the Cor de Beouf. So, my new tomato line-up for 2016 is this:

2 pods Celebration (from Gurney)
2 pods Brandywine Pink (from Burpee)
2 pods San Marzano 2 (from Seeds from Italy)
2 pods Southern Nights (from TomatoFest)
2 pods Black Krim (from TomatoFest)
2 pods Purple Russian (from TomatoFest)
2 pods Mr. Hawkins (from TomatoFest)
2 pods Black Plum (from TomatoFest)
2 pods Black Cherry (from TomatoFest)
2 pods Super Sweet 100 (from Burpee)
1 pod Granny Cantrell German (from Baker Creek Heirloom Seeds)
1 pod Coeur de Boeuf (from Baker Creek Heirloom Seeds)
2 pods Early Girl (from Gurney)

I am much more confident in the tomatoes, and all of those seeds are quite new, so I only started 2 pods of each (with 2 exceptions above), 3 seeds in each pod.

I need to get a bunch of taller 24-ounce sourcream/yoghurt/cottage cheese containers...at least 36 of them...so that can eventually transplant these pods into them. They work perfectly as far as size goes, and are easy to tip the plant and dirt out of when putting in the ground. It would be better to also start in these larger containers (as my dad does) and then they could just be re-planted once, but space limitations and cats make this impossible.

My dad started a few different tomatoes, including the last of his Celebrities, some Cherokee Purples, the Black Cherries that I also started, those new Celebrations, some kind of yellow plum tomatoes, Rutgers, Beefsteak and I am sure a couple of others I am forgetting. All-in-all, I think 12 or 15 plants. He also started some yellow and red sweet peppers, some of my Hungarian peppers and jalapeños.

In about a month, it will be time to start the cucumbers, squashes, melons, pumpkins etc. Dad gave me a bunch of different summer squashes to plant, and I have a bunch of different things from last year; also, there are a couple of varieties that I want to order specifically, so I'll see what I end up with. I am strongly considering tilling up a new section of the yard for the squashes, melons etc. - I have three lots, so I might as well put them to work.

Around May 15th, give or take, it will all go in the ground, along with the stuff planted directly into the ground such as corn, beans, root crops, lettuce (or spinach), carrots, maybe some radishes...much as we've discussed. I'll flesh out the ideas as we get closer.



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TW , i didnt read all three post in their entirety , i scanned them and they looked like triplicate ( old habit ? :P ) anyways ..imma delete the two extra ;)

seeds are amazing .. i have some 15 year old pepper seeds ( no special storage other than cool dry and dark ) that i sprout a few every year , usually get about 75% coming up , this year i pushed it however , i made a bigger spot in the garden for them so i planted at least 4 in each of 24 cups , if i get more than one sprout if i'm quick i can transplant the extra to another pod , not so much if i give it time to spread roots out , tomatoes however ...i've accidentally broken a root off and tried it anyways and it grew , but i've had many times as well where it didnt work
i'm a little disappointed however , so far my early carrots havent came up yet , next week is early cabbage and i may have to reseed the carrots ( my luck then they'll all come up lolz )
last year i was crowding the little 3" peat pots with the tomatoes , the weather wasnt just quite right , i had every window sill and flat bottomed glass dish i could scrounge full ( even borrowed a few lolz ) this year i came across a couple of sleeves of to go wax coated paper coffee cups with no lids ...( wanna guess why i saved them ? :wink: )



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Last year we got a late freeze and some of my plants suffered so I'm waiting a little longer this year.

Anyone try planting in straw bales instead of dirt?
This months Costco magazine has an article about that - sounds interesting.



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I've planted maters in a hay bale maybe 3 years ago. They did good.

I also planted in a raised bed full of pine bark. Just feed 'em &a water.



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We used hay bales last year. Can't get straw around here. It worked great. Easy way to garden.

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