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 Posted: Wed Jul 31st, 2013 03:05 AM
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I'm with Charley 100% on this Organo Phosphates are dangerous stuff. Two teaspoons of Organo Phosphates will kill a 1300 pound milk cow stone dead in a matter of minutes. I've seen 10 or 12 dead in a 50 foot circle where a corn planter slopped some out, crossing a cow pasture on the way to the corn field. This stuff is bad juju.
You may want to look at the MSDS sheet for malathion.

http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/wy/information/NEPA/wfodocs/leafhopper_ipm.Par.44217.File.dat/app2b.pdf



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 Posted: Wed Jul 31st, 2013 11:41 AM
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Do remember, the "dose makes the poison"...depends on the particular OP and the concentration of active ingrediant that regulates the amount required. As I've said before, I'm an entomologist, and have been dealing with pest management for over 30 years. I'm not saying my view should be taken as gospel, but I've seen and experienced a few things.



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 Posted: Wed Jul 31st, 2013 12:12 PM
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First, the retail version of malathion is not 96 plus percent, it is normally 50 percent with some, a few, at high concentrates at 55 percent. The retail version is totally different from the agricultural version. The chemical is used here, all over FL, as a spray from aircraft over occupied areas and is used by street foggers, all on a regular basis. This has been a regular occurance over my entire lifetime, about 70 years. Malathion is a short life chemical with it dissipating in 24 hours, otherwise it would contaminate all of the waters of FL in short order which of course it does not do.

I am a graduate chief land surveyor and have used the spray for decades while surveying in an area of the country infested, without getting a red bug on me or having them in my clothes to carry home. You do as you wish, I know what works, in a very very low concentrate.

Lets us not forget that water is a posion if you drink enough of that awful poison in one sitting! You do not apply the dog dip concentrate spray or chemical to your skin and I thought I made that clear enough.
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 Posted: Wed Jul 31st, 2013 09:31 PM
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I'm no preacher, I just teach and train safety issues with pesticides.

The oral and dermal LD 50 for malathion is pretty low, signal word is caution. As you noted, the molecule is not terribly stable, it isn't going to remain in the environment for any length of time...UV light which you get a lot of in Florida kills it pretty quickly.

RD's experience sounds a lot like a very different OP, most likely dichlorvas, AKA Vapona or DDVP. LD 50 on that is somewhere in the 50-60mg/kg range. In layman's terms, it's pretty damn toxic! Human LD 50 would be somewhere in the teaspoon/tablespoon range for the average adult.

We're all free people, able to make our choices, hopefully free of Government (and other!) interference. If your process works for you, and you've had no negative experiences with it, that's great, I hope it continues. Chances are, it probably will, the risk you run is probably a good deal less than driving to get to the site you're working at. We all must determine our own risk/benefit equation.

I'm just suggesting you might want to take advantage of some of the newer technologies available.



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 Posted: Sun Aug 4th, 2013 02:54 PM
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Charley you caused a chigger invasion here at the ranch. I noticed my old Jack Russel (16 years old) scratching the other day. Weren't fleas. Nope....chiggers were jumping all over the place. I spread some crystals mixed with Sulfur yesterday around the house and few acres in the pasture that butts up to the house property.
This is all you fault for posting this . Brought all the chiggers out in Berghiem.
Thank God for Tractor Supply.



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 Posted: Sun Aug 4th, 2013 06:58 PM
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The Only Sarge wrote:
Charley you caused a chigger invasion here at the ranch. I noticed my old Jack Russel (16 years old) scratching the other day. Weren't fleas. Nope....chiggers were jumping all over the place. I spread some crystals mixed with Sulfur yesterday around the house and few acres in the pasture that butts up to the house property.
This is all you fault for posting this . Brought all the chiggers out in Berghiem.
Thank God for Tractor Supply.

I'll take full credit/blame, whatever you want...



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LOL....gotta blame somebody....isnt that how it is done this days?
I walked the pasture just then.....nothing jumping around now.



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We are going crazy with "Buffalo Gnats" up her in WI this year. Worse than the mosquitos this year. I've had several bites just working in the yard. Swell up and bleed like crazy in just a few seconds after the bite.

Some poultry folks, especially those raising the rarer hobby breeds are losing chickens because the gnats are literally draining the blood from them. Biting them on the comb and invading the ear canals. RD



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Gotta "dust" them chickens. That was a job for my little brother and I ....along with 4 million other things......before school :) Oh how I miss the chores around a small farm. Not.



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Timberghost,

I live and hunt is eastern Virginia and chiggers are a problem this time of year when you want to go out and hang tree stands, etc.

I tried a lot of different things and I found if I spray permethrin on my clothes the night before I go out, I encounter few if any chigger bites. I use Deep Woods Off in the green can on bare skin.

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I get eat up with them. I stopped at my local feed store a few years ago and a State trooper was buying a case of Centaura. It's a aerosol spray made for horse and rider. Trooper said they get out on the grass side a lot and the whole department uses this without flaw. I bought a can hating to spend $29.00 for it but I spend every hour I can in the woods. Used it a hundred times plus and have over a half can left in 2 years. Haven't had a tick, chigger or anything else since I went this route. All natural and a citrus smell when first sprayed but goes away within minutes.



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The active ingredient in Centaura is picaridin. Supposedly much safer than DEET. It does not destroy plastics and fishing lines as DEET can. It is also available in human formulations including an Avon Skin so Soft repellant with picaridin and products from Sawyer insect repellants.

The Sawyer product is on sale right now at Cabelas.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/hunting/safety-survival/insect-repellent-control%7C/pc/104791680/c/104774580/sc/104401080/sawyer-reg-fisherman-s-formula-picaridin-insect-repellent-spray/1812791.uts?destination=%2Fcategory%2FInsect-Repellent-Control%2F104401080.uts%3FWT.srch%3D1%26WT.tsrc%3DPPC%26rid%3D20%26WT.mc_id%3DMICROSOFT%257Ccam_Survival%252BNavigation_Insect%252BRepellent%252BControl%257CUSA%26WT.z_mc_id1%3D43700005827219290%26gclid%3DCPGi4675t8gCFYvlMgodvNgDnQ%26gclsrc%3Dds



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This picaridin stuff is for real?  I mean, it works?



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