The Handloaders Bench Home
Home Search search Menu menu Not logged in - Login | Register
The Handloaders Bench > Miscellaneous > Health and Fitness > Side trip to the ER this morning

Welcome to HandloadersBench.com. Our mission here is to provide a place for those interested in the hobby of Reloading Ammunition. We offer a series of forums where they can ask questions, share answers, and highlight successes & failures so that others can learn. If you join our site please be aware that front porch rules apply. If you wouldn't say it on your front porch with grandma, your pastor and your 12 year old niece present it doesn't belong here. The Golden Rule applies. If you can live within those guidelines, Welcome Aboard! Spammers, trolls, and flamers will not last long here, your time would be better spent looking for a board where those traits are acceptable. HB Administration

Side trip to the ER this morning
 Moderated by: Poacher, Aussie Mick
 New Topic   Reply   Printer Friendly 
 Rate Topic 
AuthorPost
 Posted: Wed Jun 5th, 2013 12:36 AM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
1st Post
Thecyberguy
Master Handloader


Joined: Sat Aug 1st, 2009
Location: In The Afternoon Shadow Of MTWashington, Maine USA
Posts: 4190
Photo: 
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: I load everything!
My favorite chambering is:: The one in my hands at the that moment.
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

As a lot of you know, I am lucky enough to have a couple afflictions that will keep evolving and at some point will be a real problem.

I have Rheumatoid arthritis and COPD, a kind of nasty cocktail of diseases.

I am now on humeria for the RA and that is an immune system depressant to lower the symptoms , which allows my immune system to let bugs in and they go for the lungs.

I have had a cough for a few days.  I woke up about 3 AM and literally felt like I was being suffocated. I have a small blood O2 saturation meter and just walking across the room it would drop to the low 80's.

So  I called my PCP (when the office opened) and they suggested I go to the critical care clinic at the hospital about 15 miles away. So we do. Well they are not even open until 5 PM. So they directed me to the ER just around the hallway.

Well, now a days if you walk into the ER there is no more such a thing as common sense.

I explained my history and they even asked why I was so well versed in the terminology. They asked all the usual questions for a heart attack or congestive heart failure. I replied all was good and I wasn't having a heart attack or have congestive heart failure.  I explained I was an EMT for 10 years and had seen all the symptoms.


I Just wanted some medication to clear the congestion that was keeping the O2 from transferring and I got an IV, 3 or 4 tubes of blood drawn with many related tests, 2 nebulizer treatments and 60 MG prednizone, an EKG, 3 chest Xrays oh and a small bottle of water and 3 graham crackers.

Bet the bottle of water costs as much as the EKG!!! But all in all, I am fine.

The only reason for this post is.....with a background and history such as I had they still had to do 1000s of dollars in tests...They are not sure if I have a bit of a bug or it is just irritation from all the blooming pollen that is a round.

All this just to send me home with a prescription for a few more days of prednizone, which is all I wanted in the first place.

By the way I am feeling fine now. Just still have a pretty bad cough.

I guess the second point to my post is don't take chances...if something doesn't feel "right" go see a doctor!


You all have a good 'un, TCG



____________________
Support our troops....they are someone's kids.

Remember..."No matter where you go,~ there you are!"


 Posted: Wed Jun 5th, 2013 12:48 AM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
2nd Post
SavageShooter
Administrator


Joined: Mon Feb 15th, 2010
Location: Suburb Of KC, Missouri USA
Posts: 5844
Photo: [Download]
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: rifle
My favorite chambering is:: Improved Chamberings
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

Guy, glad to hear all is better now. Or at least somewhat. Hope you get over your bug.

Now think of this...what's it going to be like on ObamaCare?



____________________
“We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.”
― Ronald Reagan


 Posted: Wed Jun 5th, 2013 12:53 AM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
3rd Post
-6
Super Moderator


Joined: Sat Jun 28th, 2008
Location: South Central, North Carolina USA
Posts: 10009
Photo: 
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: I load everything!
My favorite chambering is:: '06
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

Howdy CG, glad you are on the mend and hope things get better quicker. Was an EMT/VFD for 24 yrs and like you have seen a bunch of sick folks. Out of it now and just cruising till it is my time on O2. Keep a couple of bottles around just in case.



____________________
Lk 22:35-38-if you don't have a sword then sell your cloak and buy one.
Peace is that glorious moment in history
when everyone stands around -- reloading.
Crisis is the absence of preparation


 Posted: Wed Jun 5th, 2013 01:17 PM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
4th Post
daboone
Forum Benefactor


Joined: Tue Oct 6th, 2009
Location: Kealakekua, Phoenix, SugarLand, USA
Posts: 3556
Photo: 
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: I load everything!
My favorite chambering is:: What day is it?
Status: 
Online

  back to top

With insurance companies and the Federal Government involved in medical care as well as a tort system that need an over haul your experience is now routine.

You are so correct both you and the ER doctor knew right off the bat what you needed. Years ago a country doctor didn't need all those tests to prove to the various agencies and for billing purposes to know what to do to get you going and out the door.

It's no wonder that the cost of health care is now insane.



____________________
An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. Will Rogers


 Posted: Wed Jun 5th, 2013 07:57 PM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
5th Post
16gauge
Master Handloader
 

Joined: Tue Jan 29th, 2008
Location: Troy, Michigan USA
Posts: 2085
Photo: 
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: I load everything!
My favorite chambering is:: With a name like "16 gauge", your really gonna ask ...
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

daboone wrote: With insurance companies and the Federal Government involved in medical care as well as a tort system that need an over haul your experience is now routine.

You are so correct both you and the ER doctor knew right off the bat what you needed. Years ago a country doctor didn't need all those tests to prove to the various agencies and for billing purposes to know what to do to get you going and out the door.

It's no wonder that the cost of health care is now insane.

The current bunch of doctors don't need all those tests to tell you what you have.....they need to do all those tests to keep the damn lawyers at bay.  Yet Obama insists that we "cut health care costs", yet he doesn't want tort reform?:rolleyes:

Just what we need......a bunch of politicians practicing medicine (and poorly!).

Hope you are on the mend soon, Cyberguy!



____________________
"If your dog thinks that you're the greatest, don't go seeking a second opinion."


 Posted: Thu Jun 6th, 2013 01:11 AM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
6th Post
Thecyberguy
Master Handloader


Joined: Sat Aug 1st, 2009
Location: In The Afternoon Shadow Of MTWashington, Maine USA
Posts: 4190
Photo: 
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: I load everything!
My favorite chambering is:: The one in my hands at the that moment.
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

Thanks guys. I am doing OK. The ol tubes opened up with the help of the nebulizer treatments and the prednizone.
I am actually as good as before the episode.
Yep...keepin the lawyers at bay is what it all about.
TCG



____________________
Support our troops....they are someone's kids.

Remember..."No matter where you go,~ there you are!"


 Posted: Thu Jun 6th, 2013 01:42 AM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
7th Post
Charley



Joined: Fri Sep 9th, 2005
Location: San Antonio, Texas USA
Posts: 15534
Photo: 
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: I load everything!
My favorite chambering is:: all of them
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

Just a guess, but I'd estimate that 10% of the costs across the board, for everything from autos, tools, guns, medical devices/treatments, EVERYTHING is due to the costs of liability.
Just bought a new string trimmer yesterday, never saw so many warnings on three different instruction books.

Tort reform would have cut medical costs far more, and far more effectively than any government price control scheme, assuming such a scheme would actually work!

Glad you are doing OK now, Guy.



____________________
"The fact that guns can kill another human being is the whole point. That's why they are so darn good at deterring violent criminals". Ann Coulter


 Posted: Thu Jun 6th, 2013 02:28 AM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
8th Post
Thecyberguy
Master Handloader


Joined: Sat Aug 1st, 2009
Location: In The Afternoon Shadow Of MTWashington, Maine USA
Posts: 4190
Photo: 
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: I load everything!
My favorite chambering is:: The one in my hands at the that moment.
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

Yep...you have it right Charley.
Thanks, Guy



____________________
Support our troops....they are someone's kids.

Remember..."No matter where you go,~ there you are!"


 Posted: Thu Jun 6th, 2013 08:08 PM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
9th Post
JEEPOHOLIC
Full Member
 

Joined: Fri Oct 16th, 2009
Location:  
Posts: 69
Photo: 
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: pistol
My favorite chambering is:: 300 WIN MAG ...
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

We don't do all those test to find out what is wrong. 99.99% of the time we know what is wrong and what will fix you. We do all those test to protect ourselves from the lawyers. People have gone and filed lawsuits over silly thing and put the blame back on the doctor. A patient smokes for 30 years, gets cancer and wants to sue the ER doctor because they would have caught the cancer 6 months earlier if they did a chest x-ray in the ER, and after all shortness of breath and cough could be a sign of lung cancer. We often don't treat to fix the patient, we test to cover our ass in a trial. Sad state of medicine today.



 Posted: Thu Jun 6th, 2013 08:22 PM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
10th Post
Thecyberguy
Master Handloader


Joined: Sat Aug 1st, 2009
Location: In The Afternoon Shadow Of MTWashington, Maine USA
Posts: 4190
Photo: 
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: I load everything!
My favorite chambering is:: The one in my hands at the that moment.
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

JEEPOHOLIC wrote: We don't do all those test to find out what is wrong. 99.99% of the time we know what is wrong and what will fix you. We do all those test to protect ourselves from the lawyers. People have gone and filed lawsuits over silly thing and put the blame back on the doctor. A patient smokes for 30 years, gets cancer and wants to sue the ER doctor because they would have caught the cancer 6 months earlier if they did a chest x-ray in the ER, and after all shortness of breath and cough could be a sign of lung cancer. We often don't treat to fix the patient, we test to cover our ass in a trial. Sad state of medicine today. Yes sir, that was one of my points.

 Maybe I didn't express it well enough. I was at a facility that has my history and even chest xrays from 2 years ago and still I had 3 hours of expensive care that I didn't really require.

My second point, maybe also not expressed well,  was it is not worth the risk not to get checked out.
TCG



____________________
Support our troops....they are someone's kids.

Remember..."No matter where you go,~ there you are!"


 Posted: Tue Jun 11th, 2013 09:09 PM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
11th Post
swampshooter

 

Joined: Sun Aug 3rd, 2008
Location: Texas USA
Posts: 7069
Photo: 
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: I load everything!
My favorite chambering is:: .204, 284, 7RM, 30/06
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

Glad to hear your on the mend. Get well soon.



____________________
NRA Endowment member
NRA Range Technical Team Advisor
TSRA member
NRA certified pistol coach-Retired
NRA classified Master, F-Class mid-range
Velocity is like a new car, always losing value
BC is like diamonds, maintaining value forever


 Posted: Sat Jun 15th, 2013 05:43 PM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
12th Post
LarryW
Senior Member


Joined: Fri Feb 15th, 2013
Location: Arizona USA
Posts: 1134
Photo: 
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: pistol
My favorite chambering is:: Any & all I have fired in the last 50 ...
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

Really glad to hear that you are OK now. I had a bad experience a couple years ago. Right after I became disabled, & lost my insurance. I got real sick. could not breath, bad chest pains that came & went. did not go to the ER because I had no insurance, & could not pay the bill, just sort of kept dealing with it. Then one night I got hit in the chest so hard, I had to look at my front window, thought someone shot me in the chest, & a little voice inside said this is not the same as before & you aint gonna make it this time, so under protest I went to the ER.
Massive blood clots in both pulmonary arteries & my left leg full of more. 7 days in ICU, 7 more on the floor, every test known to man & when all the bills were finally totaled
$102.000.00 & change. Don't get me wrong, I will never again NOT go to the ER, & I am so happy I did & I am still kickin. I will NEVER be able to fully pay that bill off, but the hospital made a deal with me, pay what I could for 4 years & they would help on the rest. I know this is one of the major reasons for the high medical cost of today, That's why I did not go, & almost widowed my best friend, but I sure am glad they were there. By the way, I have never had my back side chewed on so bad as the folks at the hospital did>>

Last edited on Sat Jun 15th, 2013 05:44 PM by LarryW



 Current time is 02:00 PM
The Handloaders Bench > Miscellaneous > Health and Fitness > Side trip to the ER this morning
Top




UltraBB 1.17 Copyright © 2007-2008 Data 1 Systems
Page processed in 0.1704 seconds (12% database + 88% PHP). 29 queries executed.