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 Posted: Tue Aug 27th, 2013 04:46 PM
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for all the ear hunters I am I need of expertise answers . I have this area I usually hunt every season and taken nice bucks passed on the lit'luns till time , but this season as I was upgrading my mineral lick and put a 5 gallon bump feeder out in from of my camera . boy did I get a surprise when I got home and put the memory card in PC. I thought someone took the bucket, I was right '' it was yogi bear. lol
never knew he was in the area but while looking for the bucket I also found trees it had been clawing on, logs turned over, rocks,,,ect. there is no baiting here So I can't do that there now for the deer . dec is bear season here and I want to hunt it ..... how do I go about scouting, what to look for, how far they travel, do they have home areas like a buck?? to many questions I'd say but I know there are bear hunters on here that can answer them to help me take this fine rug home. is 30-06 enuff to dirt nap him , Barnes TTSX 150- 165 or 175 LRX,,,, partition , or which



 Posted: Tue Aug 27th, 2013 10:08 PM
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I am no expert...I see black bear when I hunt my NC mountain lease. I've hunted ridges, saddles, plateau areas etc. All of the times I've been in range to take one the wind or thermals on the mountain have been favorable, meaning the bear didn't wind me. I'm sure they can smell over 2miles.
Aside from eating up a mineral or bait area I've noticed they love areas nears creek bottoms with dead or knock down trees. Look for bear scat and scraps on trees trunks along trails.
IMO a bear will travel as far as it has to to eat. No idea on home areas?
30-06 is plenty. If they allow use of scent lures where you hunt, I would suggest bacon grease:wink:



 Posted: Wed Aug 28th, 2013 01:19 AM
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kyhareraiser, If you can't use bait but can use scent attractants in your area check out these guys. They make a complete line of baits and scents for trapping, hunting, and catfishing. Great folks with a great product. In the spirit of full disclosure, close friends of mine. Just go to the products section. RD

http://www.bearscents.com/



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 Posted: Wed Aug 28th, 2013 02:58 PM
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Here in MI, you can bait or use hounds. If I weren't allowed either, I'd keep an eye on food sources in the area (realize that by "area", we could be talking several square miles). Bears are opportunistic omnivores, which means that they will eat just about anything when the opportunity presents. You may have a tougher time if it is after deer season, as they will scarf up gut piles without hesitation. Look for food sources such as: standing crops (corn, peanuts, ect), areas with high fish kills (as, for example, where salmon spawn and die), berry patches, ect. I would set trail cams in these areas if I had enough and keep track of whats coming in when....bears will usually routinely hit the same food source until it's depleted, then move on to a new one (one of the reasons baiting is so effective). I do believe that they have a "core area" (how big, I don't know), but will leave it in an instant if food isn't availabe.
30-06 will do the job, but I think I would personally go with a heavier bullet (180 on up), as sometimes the fat on these bears can get a bit thick.
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 Posted: Mon Sep 2nd, 2013 12:23 PM
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If you want one of the greatest "SCENTS" do a "Honey Burn"

https://www.google.com/#q=honey+burn+for+bears&safe=off&spell=1

Has worked very well before in Eastern Ky (Harlan County) just to draw bears for photography by some friends of mine.

Might want to check the legality of it though...Not sure what Ky Fish and Game rules are as far as baiting.

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with out bait black bear is a hit-miss game. Bears run from most humans, so the bears you see during the season are usually kicked out of blow-downs etc by hunters than might not even see the bear.

I'd hunt power lines, logging roads, gas transmission lines. they like to forage and will move along these paths. and you are viewing more grown.

Natural bait like nuts, are a great place if the season is correct.



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I have a friend in Western NYS that uses a lemon chiffon pie candle for use as a scent. It is illegal to bait bear in NYS. In NH this year I am going to use a 15 oz tin can with about 6 oz of bacon drippings and a salted caramel candle. Leave the lid partially on so it keeps the smoke low and slow, especially once the fat catches. You can hunt over bait in NH, you just need to get a permit. That's no big deal, but I don't like putting up with the hassle.



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There are many ways to lure bears. Honey burn and Anise are a couple popular scents. Some states don't allow baiting for a number of reasons. Baiting doesn't necessarily make it any easier. The key is to locate them and keep them in the area. I hunted bear in Maine and used a number of strong scented items to lure them to my stand.
30-06 will be plenty for a black bear. As long as it's not in grizzly country, I'd use a 30-30 for them. That's me though. Others may have a different opinion than me on that.



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Years ago one of the gun rags did animal wide hunt with the 7mm-08 when it was just becoming popular. One of the critters they took was a black bear.

So the -06 is fine for the Blackie.



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An old N.C. "bar" hunter used a little dog and a 22. He said the dog would bark and make the bear stand up then he would shoot him in the white spot. Not my idea of enough gun but it worked for him. OO Buck is sufficient for the critters if close enough. You could join the "knife/spear" club in N.C. You can only take the critters with a blade--just in case you feel adventuresome---lol.



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Not all black bears have a chest white spot. This method could make a big brown spot...on the hunter witha 22!!!!



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LOL, yep---would me anyway. I want something with a whole lot more "pep" than a 22 to tackle something that can eat me.



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I've used sardines and old pastry. It works.



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We found a 5" paw print in the back drive last year. Time to play with them real serious like--lol.



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If you can bait, buy a Cosco size can of peanut butter. Take a pait stick and spread it on trees around your stand. They will lick it off so put it about 4' high to get them to stand up, a good indication they are not cubs.

Old resturant grease (BK, etc) also works IF you are allowed to legally bait.



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BEAR wrote:
If you can bait, buy a Cosco size can of peanut butter. Take a pait stick and spread it on trees around your stand. They will lick it off so put it about 4' high to get them to stand up, a good indication they are not cubs.

Old resturant grease (BK, etc) also works IF you are allowed to legally bait.


Deer will lick the peanut butter too and it is funnier than hell. Better than a dog with a caramel:lol:.



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When I was baiting up in northern Maine, I would get used deep fat fryer grease from the restaurants and pour it all over on the ground around the bait. Bears would step in it and trail it all over the woods. This would attract other bears to the bait sight. At one point I had seven different bears to choose from and after I got mine, 3 other buddies used my stand and all filled their tags too.

Oreo's placed in a trail work really well for bringing them to the bait sight too.



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If you are not allowed to bait a bear while in a stand, suggest you be extra careful. A bear of any kind, black or brown, is one of the only critters that will hunt a man. Had friends have that experience in NH, when I lived there. Tracked a bear around a ridge point to  the ridge top and stood in the bear tracks looking down at their own tracks, said it gave them a real cold shiver. Said he never saw or heard the bear, about 30 yards away.
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OKLHUNTER wrote: When I was baiting up in northern Maine, I would get used deep fat fryer grease from the restaurants and pour it all over on the ground around the bait. Bears would step in it and trail it all over the woods. This would attract other bears to the bait sight. At one point I had seven different bears to choose from and after I got mine, 3 other buddies used my stand and all filled their tags too.

Oreo's placed in a trail work really well for bringing them to the bait sight too.


Better watch out with the Oreo's....Half the guys in this forum may show up!



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