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 Posted: Mon May 26th, 2014 01:51 PM
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I have a friend like that.
Misses the MOA of deer a lot.
I just started punching paper at 200+ in the last couple years.
I feel this puts more strain on the shooter than the 100 yard shooting.
Will be stretching it to even longer ranges soon.



 Posted: Tue May 27th, 2014 07:40 PM
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The development of good marksmanship is not linear. Practice,practice,practice.-Paul Hornung



 Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2014 10:17 PM
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Reading thru the posts I find that I'm a bit lucky with a retired sniper giving me pointers and reviewing my targets. I have 25,50,100,200,300,450, & 600 yard ranges available. I try to shoot a minnimum 50 rounds a week with my Savage 11 in 308 Win. I load my own rounds. I shot my best 200 yrd group on 8/1/14 -- 5 rounds hidden by a quarter (bench with bipod, stock on my fist). Last night I shot 600 yrds prone with a bipod for the first time. 12 rounds, 4 on a 12" dia target, 1- 3" @ 7 o'clock, the rest within a 20" circle (mostly low in a 6" high band). Most of the inaccuracy is "operator error" I'm sure. I'm looking for more information and additional viewpoints to improve my skills.
I'm also looking for pointers for precision reloading. My velocitys are to inconsistant.



 Posted: Wed Aug 20th, 2014 03:08 AM
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RickR, your on the right track. Keep practicing and then practice some more. Shooting out the long distances like your doing will teach you to read the wind better which equals a better shooter in my opinion. A lot of my friends get upset and stop shooting when the wind picks up at the range or when we are shooting prairie dogs. Truth is, I love the challenge of shoots like this. It will separate the men from the boys real quick when winds pick up, that's for sure. Of course you can always spend a little time making the rifle more accurate. Your already on the right track by owning a "Savage" :wink:

In all seriousness, practice, practice and practice some more. If you have inconsistent loads, start looking at cleaning your rifle between groups to see if that helps. If not, then look at things like neck tension next, maybe you need to crimp bullets or anneal brass. Hell, could be as simple as just changing to a different powder. God only knows, you'll have to fart around with things until you get it figured out.

Welcome to the bench btw :applaud:



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 Posted: Wed Aug 20th, 2014 11:22 PM
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If you're shooting out to 600 yds. some changes in your load might be necessary, but your mentor is probably on top of that. Frequently an inexperienced shooter will blame himself when actually a lot of his accuracy problems are with his ammo and or rifle. Normally the Savage 11's shoot pretty good though. I'd suggest having your mentor shoot a couple groups at 600 with your rifle and your loads, just for a comparison.



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 Posted: Sat Sep 13th, 2014 05:44 PM
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Rockydog wrote:
Except for the current shortage fiasco the best way to learn to shoot is with an accurate .22 rim fire. It doesn't have to be expensive. Just accurate.

A Savage NRA 19, almost any Vintage Mossberg (Mossberg 44 military trainers, model 46B and 146B bolt guns etc.)Some Remington and Winchester bolt actions. Good sights are a must. Either quality peeps or quality scopes. Because there is no recoil, you learn to follow through on your shot. You don't pick your head up in anticipation of the recoil, don't flinch, and you learn to hold the sights on the bullseye until you hear the bullet smack.

Shoot smaller and smaller targets. My brother and I used to split .22 bullets on a double bit ax stuck in a chunk of firewood at 15 yards, breaking a balloon on each side of the axe. We'd shoot spent .22 cases at 25 yards. We didn't hit all of them but we hit enough to learn how to shoot well at a young age. He's always been a better shot than I am. His nerves are better. .22 Benchrest targets with a .10" X ring are a challenge at 25 yards let alone 50. When you can turn in scores over 235 or 240 out of 250 you've arrived. RD

See the USBR single target on this link for a life size target. There are 25 of these on a sheet with 3 sighters at the top. http://rimfirebenchrest.com/misc/target.html


I was just starting to write a similar post. I agree 100% with Rocky's post. By the way. Target, match grade .22 LR's are more available than the bargain basement plinking stuff. It seems like the hoarders don't want to pay for quality ammo.
I would say that for every 20 rd. box of center-fire ammo expended a shooter should shoot 200 rds. of .22LR in serious practice from whatever discipline he chooses. Even at $10.00 a box, 22 ammo is much cheaper to shoot than center-fire ammo. Unless maybe you're one of those guys that shoots imported steel cased ammo. If so, you shouldn't even bother to read a post relating to accuracy.



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