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(Data Books) Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading 9th edition
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 Posted: Sun Mar 29th, 2015 10:42 AM
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Hornaday Manufacturing Co
copyright 2012
Third printing
hard cover

This one seems to have raised the bar for manuals to aspire to with the amount of associated reloading information it contains, from the complete listing and very nice drawings of their bullets and info. A step by step reloading guide With explanations and color photos of the equipment. A chapter on bullets and their letter designations explained. The load data is highlighted by colors for the powder names and types, and red for the maximum loads, along with drawings of the bullets and casings for rifle and handgun.

One on reloading dies, with cut away photo's explaining the ins and outs of them.  It also talks about the Hornaday's on line ballistic calculator.

The charts and tables contain a shell holder charts, Hornaday,RCBS,Lyman,C-H,Redding for rifle and handgun. Hornaday shell plates and shell holders numbers, along with the item numbers.

Die charts with item numbers for the assorted styles and types of dies,primer punch size, shell holder, trimmer pilot,and bullet puller collet number.

They finish it up with a conversion table of  loads per pound of powder by grains, Weights and lengths equivalents dealing with grains and mm,and conversion factors

This was the second manual I purchased when I started reading about reloading, One of the reasons was the illustrated glossary that it contains. Not everything thing has an illustration, but they seem to have one for the items that need a pic instead of 1,000 words.
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 Posted: Sun Mar 29th, 2015 05:44 PM
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Glen, bdon the 9th Edition. There are some MAJOR Errors with some recipes in this edition. I can't recall which calibers were incorrect, but if you do a little searching on the internet you'll quickly find them. I believe Lyman also put some some corrections on their website, but I haven't confirmed it, as I don't own this edition.

I discovered the error after a buddy called me last year and asked to double check my manuals. He was loading a rifle round ( can't remember the caliber ) but his 9th edition showed a charge almost double of the 8th (and other books) max charge weight. He said he has duscovered at least 6 errors including case dimensions. As I stated, I have not visually seen this myself, so PLEASE checkout this issue before you rely solely on the 9th Edition...I always double check multiple manuals just for my assurance.

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 Posted: Sun Mar 29th, 2015 06:05 PM
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Good to know, since I only load 9mm, and 5.56/.223 and at slightly above minimum loads for short range paper punching I probably wouldn't have known the diff. I do like the other parts  and have at least 9 load data manuals and do like you say cross check the onles that have the powder I'm using.

But it is a good thing for the new people to know. So they understand why you need more than one data source be it on the internet or hard print copies.

And that was one of the reasons for this new books section so they wouldn't get buried and could be stickied if needed. :thumbs:



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 Posted: Sun Mar 29th, 2015 06:30 PM
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I'm glad you cross reference between manuals. I just hope a new loader doesn't get hurt because if the errors.

I'll be coming to the U.P of Michigan in July. We're having a 1000 yd 50BMG Match just west of Escanaba, MI. It'll be my first time to see some MI besides the DTW airport..lol. I've done a few road trips to DTW to fix an airplane, but never got to see anything but the airport.



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BigDog58 wrote:
Glen, bdon the 9th Edition. There are some MAJOR Errors with some recipes in this edition. I can't recall which calibers were incorrect, but if you do a little searching on the internet you'll quickly find them. I believe Lyman also put some some corrections on their website, but I haven't confirmed it, as I don't own this edition.

I discovered the error after a buddy called me last year and asked to double check my manuals. He was loading a rifle round ( can't remember the caliber ) but his 9th edition showed a charge almost double of the 8th (and other books) max charge weight. He said he has duscovered at least 6 errors including case dimensions. As I stated, I have not visually seen this myself, so PLEASE checkout this issue before you rely solely on the 9th Edition...I always double check multiple manuals just for my assurance.

Jim


Hmmmmmm ... you'd think Hornady would widely publish the corrections and reference chapters and page numbers. I have three different manuals and I pull up Hodgden and Nozler on any new load. I started doing this cause I was so insecure as a noob hand loader. Guess I'll maintain the practice. :thumbs::thumbs:



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 Posted: Mon Mar 30th, 2015 11:18 AM
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BigDog58 wrote: Glen, bdon the 9th Edition. There are some MAJOR Errors with some recipes in this edition. I can't recall which calibers were incorrect, but if you do a little searching on the internet you'll quickly find them. I believe Lyman also put some some corrections on their website, but I haven't confirmed it, as I don't own this edition.

I discovered the error after a buddy called me last year and asked to double check my manuals. He was loading a rifle round ( can't remember the caliber ) but his 9th edition showed a charge almost double of the 8th (and other books) max charge weight. He said he has duscovered at least 6 errors including case dimensions. As I stated, I have not visually seen this myself, so PLEASE checkout this issue before you rely solely on the 9th Edition...I always double check multiple manuals just for my assurance.

Jim

I printed it out and glued into the notes pages in the back of the manual.

Here is the info for the 9th edition,
Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading –9thEdition ErrataPage 150, 223 Rem 50gr GMX –C.O.L. is 2.165”Page 155, 223 Rem Service Rifle 70gr GMX –Footnote C.O.L. should read 2.235”Page 286, 6.5 Grendel, 95-100 grain data, the CFE 223 line should read:Powder230024002500260026502700CFE 22328.5gr.29.7gr31.0gr.32.2gr.32.9gr.33.5gr.Page 310, 6.5mm Rem Mag –Under the 95-100 grain data, the 3,200 fps load for IMR 4350 should be 52.2 grains.Page 356, 7mm Rem Mag, IMR 7828, first and second columns should read 55.5gr and 58.9gr respectively.Page 380, 300 Whisper/AAC Blackout –Case schematic and case (max and trim) lengths are from an early, non-standardized version. Max Case length should be: 1.368” and Case Trim Length should be: 1.358”.Also, 110gr FMJ (#3017) & 110gr RN (#3015) C.O.L. should be 1.790”Page 393, 7.5x54mm MAS –Under the 150-155 grain data, Win 760, the 2200 fps column should be 40.6gr and the 2300 fps column should be 42.8gr.Page 386, 300 Whisper/Blackout –Under the 225 grain data, due to firearm variances, it is not recommended to load below the 1,000 fps data. Page 401, 307 Winchester –Under the 160 grain data,IMR 4895 max charge should be 38.6 grains.Page 481, 300 Win Mag –Under 150-155 grain data, Win Supreme 780 should read 79.2 grains under the 3,200 fps column. Page 560, 338 Lapua Mag –Under 250 grain data, for 250gr BTHP, #33361, C.O.L. should be 3.625”Page 618, 416 Rigby –Under 400 grain data, C.O.L.’sshould read 3.580”Page 632, 44-40 Winchester –Under the 205 grain data, the powder listed as Clays should be Universal (formerly Clays Universal).Page 641, 45 Colt -Under the 255 grain data, the powder listed as Clays should be Universal (formerly Clays Universal).Page 646, 45-70 Gov’t 325gr FTX –First column velocity should read 1350 fps. Page 774, 357 Sig, Under 100 grain data, Unique and Universal powder names should be swapped. Unique starts at 6.4 grains through 9.2 and Universal starts at 6.3 grains through 7.5 grains. Page 828, 44 Special, Max case length should be 1.165” and case trim length should be 1.155”

link to the Hornaday pages for the last 3 editions.

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