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 Posted: Sat Feb 18th, 2017 12:15 AM
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Has anyone had experience with IMR 4895 with a 223 55 FMJBT? My Hornady book is the only one that shows it. All the other books show 55 gr loads but not for the FMJBT. I ended up with 5lbs of IMR 4895 and the 223 is the only rifle I reload for. AR 16 in' bbl 1-7 twist

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IMR 4895 is what we call ADI AR 2206H

Have a look at the ADI manual - nothing specific to FMJ but will give you a ball park to look at:
http://www.adi-powders.com.au/handloaders/rifle.asp?Calibre=223+Remington



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I had good results with near max loads of IMR 4895 and 55 grain Sierra soft points in AR's with 1/7 and 1/9 twist barrels.

I've never loaded any 55 grain FMJBT's with IMR 4895 but I'm sure there's established data out there.



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IMR 4895 is the powder for 223, it's always in the top five accuracy wise. Load for function or to cannelure, if you prefer to crimp. Start at 23grs working up to 26.5gr or where you're happy. It preforms well slightly compressed and is what powder was used for 55gr ball, way back when.



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I've been loading 25.5 grains of IMR 4895 under a variety of 55 grain bullets for years using Winchester SR primers. But truthfully never FMJ.

I've loaded flat base and boat tail cup and core bullets with and without plastic tips used in TC Contenders, TC Encores, a couple of different ARs, two HR Handi Rifles, and 4 different Savage rifles. Hodgdens starting load for 55 grain Speer SP is 23 grains of IMR 4895 and the max is 26.4 compressed.

I see that the Hornady Sixth edition says IMR 4895, 22.7 Start and 25.1 Max. With a variety of 5, 55 grain bullets including the BT FMJ.

Nosler lists 6 different 55 grain bullets. IMR 4895 23.5 Grains start to 25.5 max.

And a Sierra Manual Circa 1978 say IMR 4895 23.2 start - 25.8 max for 2 flat based 55 Grain bulletsin cluding a 55 Spitzer that has what looks to be a long bearing surface.

Basically, if you start at the 22.7 grains of IMR 4895 as recommended by Hornady and work up, watching for pressure signs and ejection behavior matching factory loads, you'll probably hit an accuracy node somewhere between that and 25.5 grains.

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that's what I use for 55gr soft points. get 3000+ fps from a 16" barrel with 1moa or better out of 2 different ARs. I like it. but I also use an electric powder dispenser. manual throws are not very consistent with the stick powder and you will lose some accuracy there.



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IMR-4895 From 22.7 grains to 27.5 grains. http://stevespages.com/page8a.htm



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Appreciate the info. Just wondered why my Hornady book is the only one that shows the Hornady 55FMJBT. Great for practice at $81 per K.



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I dunno why no one else don't show it but I have noticed some company's like to use certain powders and some powder company's like to use certain bullets.

when I use the Hornady 55 fmj's I just seat to the cannelure and use either 24.5grs of AA-2230 or Imr 4895.

if I had to choose ONE rifle powder to load every rifle round I have I-4895 would be it.
it might not be the best for the 25-20 but it would work.



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These lead core types of bullet, 55FMJBT are very close to being the same between brands. IMO.



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My son and I both use it with 55 gr. FMJBT's and standard FMJ's in 1-7 barrels. Shoots really well.

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Texas Brass Works had the Hornady 55 FMJBT's for $81 per K. If I order on Mon I have them by Fri.FYI.



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My go-to load for my H&K #93 is 25 grains of IMR4895 behind a 55 grain boat tail, it chronographed at 2,995 FPS and 1,095 FPE at muzzle, worked very well on both Jackrabbits and on Coyotes, (the boat tail gives the bullet a flatter trajectory out to extreme distances, less drop, great for protecting pivots of Alfalfa, both night and day, in Central Oregon!



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I appreciate the info Gentlemen. My AR settled on 24.0 IMR 4895. Just put new glass on it and at 25 yds 4 in 3/8". Can't get to the 100 yard range for a couple of weeks. If I can do 1" of less I'll be happy.

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FWIW, Speer and Hornady have lumped FMJ's into the 55gr load mixes for decades. The 4895's have been in the powder mix forever.

What I'd wonder about is "other" bullets. The construction and form of FMJ's differs quite a bit, core hardness also plays into the load.

Like anything you need to work up no matter what powder you pick, but the 4895's are usually excellent all around.



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interesting thread.  I could not get my AR to group at all with IMR4895.  Or a bolt gun. 
 



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12semi wrote:
interesting thread.  I could not get my AR to group at all with IMR4895.  Or a bolt gun. 

Well, there are no absolutes in handloading.

Many years back, when I had M7/7-08, M700/.30-06, a M70/.375 H&H, all very accurate rifles, I decided to take home a 8lb canister of IMR 4350, as most every loading reference indicated that was a great powder for all three.

Nothing shot for poo in any of them. Velocities were a dog across the spectrum from mid to max. I eventually traded the remaining 5lbs or so for a couple lbs of W760 at a swap meet. My current supply of H414/W760 will get me to my grave.

In retrospect, I wonder if I just got a scrub lot. ?? I never bought another lb of the stuff.



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