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 Posted: Wed Feb 22nd, 2017 06:47 PM
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About how much do you think it costs you to load 223 ammo. 55 fmj stuff. I'm looking at prices for components and I'm coming up wit about .30 cents.
W760 powder about .12 per round
primer .04 cents per round, and bullets about .15 per round.
As a side question, does anyone know where to get a good price on 223?



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If you already have brass and dies, that sounds pretty close but on the high side, like maybe if you were only building 100 rounds. Buying powder, primer, and bullets in bulk drives the price down.

When I was buying bulk 223/5.56 I would comb sites like Natchezss.com for deals. They will just pop up out of nowhere and be gone just as quick. Same with some local gun shops - they buy pallets every now and then and pass the savings on. If you can use stripper clips you may be able to find even better deals.

Just a quick look, natchezss has 223 for $0.34 a round before shipping https://www.natchezss.com/umc-centerfire-rifle-bulk-pack-mc-55gr-223-remington.html

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5.50-6.00 per 20 is what i load mine for. Depending on what batch of components I use. In 55 fmj plinking rounds. .27-.30 a round. I bought a bulk batch of powder and primers and bullets a while back so my price per round went down. I haven't figured it from the shipping receipts to see the actual cost. I quit worrying about that a while back. You don't save money because you end up shooting more.

Now on match grade ammo I'm loading it for 1/3 the cost of factory. That will add up over time.

Natchez ss runs a sale pretty often and cheaper than dirt has some deals on occasion.

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Specialty stuff is cheaper to load, but surplus equals or beats the price for reloading. I have been taking a few new people shooting and I prefer factory loaded ammo for new shooters.



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It's almost like loading 12 gauge shotshells, from a cost standpoint not much better than factory, but from a quality load standpoint still worth doing. Last time I figured my cost was about $0.35 each and I could buy factory Federal at Academy for $0.45 each.



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I load them for slight more than 22rf, but I'm still working though deals I got. Right now, you can find bullets for $80K, powder for $125 8lb, primers for $135 case or about $180K for components.

Currently $350K is about average for loaded. Cabela's has PMC 300rd with dry box for $109, use 17spring code to get $20 off $150, to ship free to store or 27ship for $5 ship to home, slightly better deal than Natchez's $340 + ship.

You just missed President's day sales.



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$.30 $.31 per round here. That's paying regular prices for primers, powder and projectiles. Buying these on sale or in bulk helps greatly. For example, getting these items on sale using Cabela's as a reference reduces the cost to $.21 per round.

In addition to saving money you're generally getting a more accurate round. That's what is great about this hobby.



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I come up with about the same price as you do .. Does not bother me as factory ammo just cant produce the accuracy that my handloads can.
I have shot tighter groups at 300 and sometimes 400 yards with handloads that most factory stuff can shoot at 100 yards.

I have many boxes of factory ammo and did some cool testing with them.
I do see some guns that do like the factory fodder.

Usually short chambered AR's. My long chambers in my bolt guns just like the bullets seated longer than factory sets them.



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The $30 a jug pulled powder, $50 a case Wolf primers, $250 for 10K bullets, sadly are a thing of the past.



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Ozark Ed wrote:
It's almost like loading 12 gauge shotshells, from a cost standpoint not much better than factory, but from a quality load standpoint still worth doing. Last time I figured my cost was about $0.35 each and I could buy factory Federal at Academy for $0.45 each.

If you figure in return from selling hulls or brass, it gets even closer. Trap loads and plinking loads aren't going to pay, but premium loads for either is much different story.



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760 is too slow for the 223 748 would be more appropriate.
I prefer H-322 or AA-2230
22-24grs of powder stretches things out better. [just over 3 lbs for 1-K rounds]
primers are still 3 cents. [sometimes a bit less]
I don't know about bullets I buy jackets for 5-9 cents each depending on whether I buy match jackets or 'whatever I can find cheap' [just missed out on some for 4.4 cents each]
or whether I make them from 22 cases I pick up for free.

LC once fired brass is just about giveaway-cheap right now.



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Since you are some what focused on cost, you might want to check out American Reloading for bullets, they have some pretty good bulk deals on 55 gr. FMJ's and HP's.

I don't remember what my son came up with for cost, but it was quite economical.

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Here are some current numbers and sites that have what you need. 

H335 runs under $160.00 for 8 pounds, under 22.00  for one pound which has 7,000 grains, max load of 25 grains = 280 rounds = 7.86 cents per round.
https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/search?SearchTerm=H335

55 gr FMJ  1,000 cost $85.00
https://brassmanbrass.com/product/223224-55-grain-fmjbt-wc-armscor-rifle-bullets-1000-ct/

brass 1000 pieces once fired not crimped primer Remington headstamp $85.00 
Now, I figure 5 loads before discard or 1.7 cents per shot. 
https://brassmanbrass.com/product/10u-223-remington-remington-brass-non-crimped-1000-ct/

CCI 400 primer 30.00 for 1,000.  5,000 Federal 205's are $152.00
https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/21306

Comes out to less than 22 cents a round.

Hazmat fees, Sales Taxes, powder spillage, quantity purchases, dropped primers, all can combine to raise or lower your cost.  Thing is, nothing above is 2nd tier (except the CCI) and it is less expensive than even the steel case junk from Europe.



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A couple links for you

Both FMJ and SPs $85K, HP $100K
https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/dept/reloading/rifle-bullets/-point-224-dia/traditional

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/246092/factory-second-bullets-22-caliber-224-diameter-55-grain-full-metal-jacket-box-of-100-bulk-packaged



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Great replies guys. thanks for the information. When I take people shooting that are new to it I generally prefer factory ammo. Not that i'm worried about what I do, but you never know. Also, the biggest reason to reload is that it is just plain enjoyable to do.



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sometimes it ain't so enjoyable. [it's just work]
I just finished loading 1100 rounds tonight and have another batch for another rifle in the tumbler right now.
I still have to champher case mouths etc..
I probably should have set the dillon up for the first bunch.

I still have another box of 500 once fired to go.
and haven't even started on the new box of milsurp brass I got to do a full work-up on.



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Hornady FMJ can be had for .10/round or less if you buy by the thousand, .10 for powder @ $30/pound and a few pennies for primers and I'm at .23 max. I know I got my powder and bullets for less so I'm likely at about .19.

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