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Removing Die from press
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 Posted: Wed Mar 15th, 2017 01:09 PM
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gifbohane wrote:
Daman

When you remove the die do you clasp and turn it by the locking nut and twist it off?


If they are wrenched on, I wrench on the locking nut.
If I spun it down by hand, I grab it in a fist same as I tightened it, by the body, and twist it out.

Edit-If I hand-tightened more than I can break loose, yes, the wrench goes on the lock-nut to pop it loose.

The pinch-type locknuts (my Hornady's) do not slide on the threads if they are pinched properly tightly.

I have never had RCBS's brass setscrews slip either from this method. Yes, a piece of lead shot under the setscrew is a solid idea. I didn't do it but I went for the switch to Hornady split rings instead.

The only Lee dies that are still using Lee's o-ring'd jamnut mess, are the ones permanently installed in die heads of my Loadmaster or Pro1000, ones that are set to never be moved.
The ones that go in and out of my Crusher II are split-ringed.

Once I have set a sizing die or crimping die to my happiness, in a given press, they are locked and do not get readjusted (and have never needed to be).

The only adjustment I have ever had to make to a set seat/crimp die is to the seating stem, never to the crimp level. That seating stem adjustment has never altered the crimp level, and so only the stem gets adjusted.

I have a set of .308W dies (Hornady Pacific Durachrome) that held adjustment (other than bullet changes adjusting the seating stem) for 22-some-odd years until I changed the press.
Sets of 45 Auto (Hornady), and 9mmP (RCBS) dies that held setting (again, except seating stems) for around 15 years until that press was replaced.

Those dies were run in and removed from the press hundreds of times. When I loaded handgun ammo on a single-stage press (prior to 2004-ish) making my weekly IDPA 100 rounds took 3 die changes (I made 2 trays of 50 per tray).
I do not store any dies in the press, always in the box, but even if I did, the first die I would need would never be the last one I used. The deprime/size die would be in the box, the seat/crimp die would be in the press.

I do put just a little bit of CLP on the die threads once every few years. I oil the press ram much more often.

Last edited on Wed Mar 15th, 2017 01:11 PM by Damannoyed



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Daman

Thanks for the detailed explanation.

I also bought the Hornady lock rings for the RCBS dies.

I presume that you have carbides?



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No prob. gif

I use only carbides for straight-wall resizing, I have no interest in wasting time and efforts, making things more complicated than they have to be, by using plain steel straightwall (handgun) dies with case lube.

I own a set of .38/.357 dies by BAIR, they are kinda old, gun show find 20 yrs ago, steel resizer.
I instantly bought a carbide resizer.
Even with the new/extra resizer, the price was acceptable, I knew what I was getting, think I paid under $20 for the set as original.

OK, one handgun die isn't "carbide", it's Titanium Nitride,,, same same though, Hornady set for .45.



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I need to get some lead shot as well for the die's that I have that have set screws. Lyman puts a nylon ball in their dies to act like the lead shot buffer/thread protector and they use this as the set on their universal case trimmer as well, however that nylon for some reason grabs the thread and doesn't like to release, especially on the case trimmer.

On die's this wouldn't be a problem but on a universal case trimmer where you change settings for different cases its a pain in the butt.

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If you don't have any lead shot to act as buffers , just snip some copper or aluminum wire , just shorter than hole diameter and drop that in the hole. The wire I had was a small diameter so I snipped two pieces and dropped in the hole....worked fine and I didn't have to cut open a shotgun shell.
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Some great ideas here.

I've chosen to standardize on the Hornady LNL system and have the conversion adapter on my Rockchuckers as well.

I'm a big fan of the system and Hornady's locking rings.



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Steel on steel may be OK
I doubt steel on aluminum would be as obliging.
I REALLY like the Hornady die bushings and wouldn't have a press without die bushings or removable tool head.



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The deck heights are usually close but the height between the deck and the ram can vary with the same deck. This might cause your shell holder to not reach or to be too tall.


HighBC wrote: Paul Tummers wrote:
Yes, you should be able to remove them without changing the setting, just make sure, you always use the same shell-holder as you did have in your press when you adjusted your dies.

Paul, don't all standard shell holders have the same deck height dimension of .125"? I don't mix and match shell holders very often, but I have swapped Hornady, Lee and RCBS on occasion, never noticed a variation, but maybe I'm missing something here?

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Based on this thread I took some measurements. If you doubt that shell holders are different you might check here: http://www.handloadersbench.com/view_topic.php?id=42758&forum_id=12&highlight=shell+holder+height



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Just keep the shell holder with that set of dies, this way its the same all the time., only a few dollars. Yes there is a difference in the shell holders , all close but no-cigar. Old bench rest trick.



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Also make sure you snug down the ring nut on the seating stem.

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