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 Posted: Sat Mar 18th, 2017 02:44 PM
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Wild hair has stuck I saw a article on this round.
Took some wcc 223 ran a 243 then 264 expander from 21st century and finished with their 308 expander. Bought reamer from ptg and fitting a kriegher 17 twist barrel like I use on my 30br builds action will be a swap barrel and bolt setup on my remington 700 action. Pics to follow as build progresses.

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 Posted: Sat Mar 18th, 2017 03:27 PM
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That sounds like it will be a winner. I often wondered why someone didn't make one of these. Seems like a no brainer. A bit hotter than a .30 Carbine but still capable of heavier bullets and even sub sonics if desired although they wouldn't function in an AR15 platform unless deeply seated. Not all that far from a 7mm TCU.

I'm wondering why the 17 twist? Won't that limit you to rather short bullets? RD



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 Posted: Sat Mar 18th, 2017 03:33 PM
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Rocky that is what is winning with 30br.
And I already have a spare blank here. I swage 117 grn 308 bullets for my br. Looking at several powders that have worked well on it.if my calculations are correct should be around 2800 fps



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Got it! For a purpose driven rifle that makes perfect sense. I was thinking in more of a general purpose gun. If a 300 Whisper is heavy enough for deer, wouldn't a 30/223 be even better, type of thinking. RD



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They are equal to 30-30 with cast bullets so yes great round. Some have used in the ar platform but with a bolt no lenth of bullet restrictions like the magizine.
I debated a slower twist but the Br 30 has proven it's self in score and group with the 17 twist.
This switch barrel has 6br,6.5br 6.8spc and now soon will have this 223-30 it has been my test platform.

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Let us know how it shoots. I'm not much of a whisper fan but one of these intrigues me. RD



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 Posted: Sun Mar 19th, 2017 04:05 PM
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How much are you gaining over the 300 Whisper I used 221 brass with the JDJ's goodies back in the 80's or so ??? am shooting out of a T/C 15 inch bull bbl.with my whisper and have had many a good hunt with mine. Dies back then were all custom . 221 brass was a good solid brass. xp days.
Keep us posted on your project. Love to hear about WILDCAT'S.

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 Posted: Mon Mar 20th, 2017 11:15 AM
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Ruffian the best I achieved from the 300 blackout was 2450
The powder capacity of 30-223 is 1/3 more my figures show a maximum load should be around 2800 with same bullet. No load data on this round yet proven by the chronograph as I am just building my first rifle. When I test it i will know more but the ease of making the brass a full lenth 223 opened to 308 makes this a much easier round than blackout or whisper.



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I believe that is called the 30 Apache.



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Savage shooter right now a pile of parts and brass, problem I can not post pics here anyway this allows me to show them in chat but not post here.

Photo posted by Admin on 3/29/2017.
preacher Jim's switch barrel rifle project.

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SavageShooter wrote:
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Pics e-mailed to me and added to posts 1, 5, and 11 on behalf of Preacher Jim.



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Ok this is 6.5 Br, 6br, 6.8spc and bolt fitted to action, bottom barrel will be 30-223 and it's switch bolt. Stock one i made the interchanges also
Thank you Rocky for posting photo for me.

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