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 Posted: Sun Apr 16th, 2017 07:41 PM
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I received my order of Lyman 311291 bullets for my 03A3.
My old Lyman reloading manual has listed, using 2400, 20gr minimum and 27.5gr as a maximum load. Searching on the sites it seems that the go to load for targets is with 16gr of 2400. 1450fps I believe. That load for 50yd targets? How many grains of 2400 are you liking for a 100 yd target?



 Posted: Sun Apr 16th, 2017 08:05 PM
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Try the 16.0 gr./2400 load first then slowly work up if necessary.

Personally I run 25.0 gr. of H4895 and that same bullet in the .308 Win. and 30-06. The .308 is good for 1.5MOA at 200 yards if it's not too windy and the 06 will topple a 300 meter pig silhouette if the bullet strikes in the top 25 percent of the pig. Recoil is very mild. I'm saving what little 2400 I have on hand for my .357 and .44 mags as 2400 seems to have gone extinct around here, :pissed:
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I use IMR 4895 under that bullet in 30-30 and 30-40. I use 30 grains of IMR 4895 in both cartridges. About 1950 FPS in the 30-30. Perhaps a bit slower in the 30-40.

I'm saving my 2400 for my .357 too. LOL RD

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I don't have any 4895 on hand. I have Red Dot,Green Dot and 700x, which is in the load listing. It even has Herco. I'm gonna have to get an updated manual.



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Well, you need to introduce yourself to The Load by Ed Harris:

13.0gr of Red dot

Lots of fellows here swear by it.

Here's some info:

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?4109-The-Load-13-grains-Red-Dot

or google the load red dot

IMR700X works pretty good too in 30-06 and 30-30 cast boolit loads.

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bojac, I just spent 10 miutes looking up the load and posting exactly the same info olyeller posted while I was typing. I guess great minds think alike. I will, however, save you some reading. Just go to post 25 on page 2 of the topic. It has the info on THE LOAD right from the source. Ed Harris.

You can also follow Mr. Harris' advice and make yourself enough gun cleaner to last a lifetime. Here's the recipe for Ed's Red. https://survivalsherpa.wordpress.com/2012/06/17/diy-preparedness-eds-red-bore-cleaner-recipe/



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So that's where the 16gr 2400 recipe come from.(Ed's article.) Maybe I'll sit on my 2400 too, I didn't know it is scarce. I have lots of Red Dot.
13.5 is max for the #311291 in my manual. My bullets are sized to .311. the nose goes into the bore. Tight.
Since i'm using military brass should I reduce my load 10% or doesn't it matter in reduced loads?



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Ed's Red and Jr's 411. I'm luv'n this forum.



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I'd reduce it by a grain and a half and work back uo 1/2 grain at a time watching for flattened primers etc. It's not costing a heck of a lot to do so with 538 loads per pound of Red Dot. Less than .038 for powder, .029 for primers, don't know what you paid for bullets...Mine are free! If I don't count the propane to smelt the COWW. I'm loading 30-30 for less than I can buy .22 RF. RD



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Harris pretty much moved from the original 13 grains of Red Dot to 16 grains of 2400 a couple of years after The Load was first published. I've used both, and had good results with both.



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Another vote for "The Load":thumbs:



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My Lyman 50th manual shows that bullet with 29.5 gr of 2400 as max with a velocity of 2296.

It also shows 5744 and Reloder 7 as the most accurate powders

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My M-70 liked 18.2 gr 2400 with a 173gr cast, gas check, and polyfil to keep the powder down. Don't know ifs necessary but it can't hurt. I agree with someone on this forum that said it looks like you are shooting a chicken.



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Ha! That IS funny Old Cop! I can see it!



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18-19grs of 2400 will do what you want.
my 03A3 likes 19.
my 1917 likes 18 with a LR primer or 19.3 with a pistol primer.
orient the powder to the primer and your accuracy will be better.



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Thanks. I'll try it.



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